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Old 9 Jul 2007, 12:36 (Ref:1958557)   #76
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Apologies Allen
As Pantah can tell you it's my week for yptos...
I think the prefix should be 38 rather than F3. Heasell's car one of two sold to Wolf. How long do you have him with the car?

As for the ex Malins B43... How about converted into an Atlantic and run by Michael Roe at Phoenix Park in 1979? [That's just a guess.]

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Old 9 Jul 2007, 12:50 (Ref:1958574)   #77
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I only have two results for him so far: a couple of fourth places in libres at Donington and Mallory in June 1981.
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Old 9 Jul 2007, 16:47 (Ref:1958828)   #78
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Is that Walter Wolf you refer to, Chris? And did Michael Roe do that 'famous' 79 Phoenix Park race, I'd forgotten that. Would it be on to put a BDA into a
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Old 9 Jul 2007, 20:52 (Ref:1959057)   #79
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bda should fit into the b43 i wonder if they used the Mk9 hewland or upgraded to Ft200 as most FA cars had them
Brake calipres should be ok but discs would need to be larger wheels are a wider rear wing may be ok
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Old 10 Jul 2007, 07:43 (Ref:1959323)   #80
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Yes it was that Walter Wolf, running his F3 team from Reading I think.

Roe DNA for the Phoenix Park race but there was a press item [MN I think] which said he was going to run with a B43-BDA.
B42-43-45 basically same tub I think.

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Old 10 Jul 2007, 13:16 (Ref:1959654)   #81
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Chris, I wonder why Roe would modify someone-else's B43, when he had his own B47 that could, presumably have been 'BDA'd'. Or perhaps the conversion was trickier on the GE cars??
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Old 10 Jul 2007, 13:43 (Ref:1959682)   #82
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Old 10 Jul 2007, 15:59 (Ref:1959811)   #83
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But a B43 would probably be more effective around Phoenix Park than a B47.
Come to think of it almost anything [wheelbarrow, forklift truck, armoured personnel carrier] would have been more effective than a B47 - except perhaps for an Argo JM9 Allegro...
That people entered converted B48s for the race suggests either a certain contempt for the opposition or [more likely] desperation over what to do with the thing, rather than any faith in the car's ability to win it.

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Old 10 Jul 2007, 16:04 (Ref:1959813)   #84
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Given the usual technology lag between F2 and F/Atl, maybe they thought a lame F2 might make a reasonable F/Atl?
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Old 10 Jul 2007, 17:00 (Ref:1959866)   #85
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That and a certain driver lag... [In that the average club driver in Irish Atlantic was not going to be a match for an F2/F3 hotshoe]
Come to think of it, in the usual first corner scramble at Phoenix Park the APC was probably the best bet

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Old 15 Feb 2010, 23:04 (Ref:2634065)   #86
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Ed Swart's B45 and B46

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Given the usual technology lag between F2 and F/Atl, maybe they thought a lame F2 might make a reasonable F/Atl?
Hi Allen,
Sorry, I am a little late getting involved in the B45 conversations. It had stopped in 07, but I just looked at it for the first time. Nobody contacted me!
My B45 is nr. 3, the ex Shea car. I bought it in March 1989 and it came, together with a B34, out of a museum in Canada. Both cars were complete but had broken engines. The gel coat of the B45 body was "pink". Both cars needed a full restoration. I sold the 34 and kept the 45. It was a Formula Atlantic and I ran it with a 1600 BDA for many years till people started to use bigger engines. I replaced the rear wing with a correct F2 wing and in 1998 fitted a 2.0 ltr. BDG in the car making it an F2.
It is a great and fast car and I still race it actively.
In 2004, I bought the only B46 SuperVee ever made by Chevron and it was the last "real" Chevron car made. It had never been raced and still had the GoodYear stickers of 1978 on the tires. Fred Opert ordered it for an American customer, who ended up never racing it. To make the SuperVee Chevron used a B43 F3 tub (it has #16) and B43 body work with VW brakes, MK9 gearbox and VW engine. I made the car into a Formula Atlantic, for which I had to make 45 changes and having the B45 helped a lot. The 43 tub is almost like the 45 but lighter and the body has no full side pots. It turned out to be a very nice and lightweight Atlantic which I still enjoy racing.
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Thanks very much for this Ed. Thanks for your time yesterday on the B19s too.
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Welcome to the forum and thank you for that detail on your cars.
The B34... did you have a chassis number for it, or any idea who had used it?

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some pics related to this thread...

I covered the Atlantic series for Autoweek from '76 through the early '80s so I have a fair number of pics from that era. There are a number of pics of the cars mentioned here currently in my Atlantic set.

There will be more as I have barely scratched the surface of what I have from my Atlantic years.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4668198...7623186773769/

Link to all of the racing photos I've posted so far....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/
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