Chevron B35 - Page 2

Dan Rear · 22 Jun 2006, 11:09 (Ref:1638998)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris farrell

My brother Steve Farrell who still lives in the UK (BAR and Prodrive) bought the B35 on my behalf. The information was that it was an ex Opert car/Rosberg and was restored by Ken Thorogood, who we both knew well. The B35 was fitted with a 420R which was bulit by Brian Hart in 1988. Hpe this helps. In Australia since 1992.

Chris, I used to see you racing at Mallory in the late 70s/early 80s. Was there a dentistry history for you and Steve ?

I presume you refer to Ken 'Hub of the Universe' thorogood, wasn't he based in East Anglia somewhere. Finally, are you sure the Hart was built in 1988, this seems v late for Hart to be building F2 engines?

Bryan Miller · 22 Jun 2006, 23:58 (Ref:1639455)

Dan,
I can answer part of your query, Chris had heard that Brian Hart were building a batch of 10 new 420R engines in the late 1980's and ordered one , and after delivery then set about finding a car to insert said engine into, in Australia you cannot stuff any eng. into any chassis , the car must run the same type of eng. as it ran in period, e.g. my BT35 -8 runs an iron block 1790/1860cc BDE , I cannot , even if I desired run an alloy block BDG of 1995cc , so they had to search out a car that ran a 420R in period.
Bryan.

allenbrown · 23 Jun 2006, 09:13 (Ref:1639609)

Two Chrevron B35s for sale at the moment:

1. B35-76-09 with Hart 420R on eBay "full ownership from new" contact Mark on 310-500-5910. Has been mainrained by Chris Fox.

2. B35 red with white upper body rolling chassis ex-Jean Lachaud, Marc Régal from bugeysportauto@free.fr at this this URL. Lachaud and Régal were both hillclimbers. Maybe 76-03 or 76-11?

Allen

Allen

Dan Rear · 23 Jun 2006, 12:51 (Ref:1639773)

Allen, or maybe Steve W, do you know where -10 ended up, after George McMillan. On the hills somewhere perhaps??

Steve Wilkinson · 23 Jun 2006, 14:25 (Ref:1639822)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

Allen, or maybe Steve W, do you know where -10 ended up, after George McMillan. On the hills somewhere perhaps??

Sorry, no record of that car on the hills or sprints!

allenbrown · 23 Jun 2006, 16:50 (Ref:1639886)

Sorry Dan, don't know. Maybe went into a super saloon?

Dan Rear · 26 Jun 2006, 10:32 (Ref:1641493)

I recall Pat Thomas' Esprit Donny GT car had some B35 bits in it, perhaps they were from this car ?

chris farrell · 6 Jul 2006, 11:41 (Ref:1649573)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

Chris, I used to see you racing at Mallory in the late 70s/early 80s. Was there a dentistry history for you and Steve ?

I presume you refer to Ken 'Hub of the Universe' thorogood, wasn't he based in East Anglia somewhere. Finally, are you sure the Hart was built in 1988, this seems v late for Hart to be building F2 engines?

Hi Dan
You are correct.
I racesd at Mallory in F3 -77 and FF1600 1982 teamed with Rod Gretton and in 83 against my brother in 83 FF2000. I had a large Dental practice in Nuneaton Wawickshire from 1980 to 1985. My brother Steve and I started Milldent Motorsport from Hinckley Industrial estate. He moved to Chambelain Engineering in 1987 and used to meet Brian Hart at the local. Brian built 3x 420Rs in 88 one of which I bought.
I now live in Australia and Steve lives in Leafield OXON.
Ken is the Ken of copy anything and sell it at the time. Thetford actually. He is a legend.
Regards
Chris Farrell

allenbrown · 11 Oct 2006, 10:32 (Ref:1734992)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Townsend

35.76.03 1976: ROC for Jean -Pierre Jaussaud with Chrysler engine. 1977 Andre Chevalley

35.76.09 Chrysler: 1976: ROC for Jean-Pierre Jaussaud

35.76.11 Chrysler [unusual as Chevron didn't normally build 11] ROC for Xavier Lapeyre

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenbrown

Two Chrevron B35s for sale at the moment:

1. B35-76-09 with Hart 420R on eBay "full ownership from new" contact Mark on 310-500-5910. Has been maintained by Chris Fox.

2. B35 red with white upper body rolling chassis ex-Jean Lachaud, Marc Régal from bugeysportauto@free.fr at this this URL. Lachaud and Régal were both hillclimbers. Maybe 76-03 or 76-11?

Thanks to my ever growing Echappement collection, I think I can now put a few pieces together.

Two B35-ROCs appear on the French hills in 1977, one with Fredy Canin and the other with Jean Lachaud. There are also Cheval's B29/B35-ROC, which is sometimes reported as a B35 just to confuse matters, and the ex-Lapeyre B35-BMW of Régis Pechaire. So, as the two cars advertised above are clearly different vehicles, one could be excused for concluding that 76-09 was Canin's and 76-03 was Pechaire's.

But it's not that simple of course (when is it?). F1R report André Chevalley running a B35-BMW in 1977 and call it 76-03. If they're right about that, it means someone in France has taken the ROC engine out of 76-03 and put in a BMW just as someone else in France is taking a BMW out of another B35 and putting in a ROC. Posssible, but unlikely. ROC engines didn't exactly grow on trees.

Anyone looked into the Chevalley car? Do we know how F1R identified it?

Allen

allenbrown · 29 Oct 2006, 19:27 (Ref:1752941)

Another B35 to stir things up. Chevron employee John Lewis is reported to have built up a B35 at the factory and first raced it at Aintree in August 1977 (MN 18 Aug 1977 p16).

Dan Rear · 30 Oct 2006, 10:48 (Ref:1753437)

I'm pretty sure Allen, that this was a B34 in fact, that Lewis built up at the factory. It had an Atlantic BDA IIRC, and hence was described as a B34 in period, tho' I guess if it was a 'bitza' it may have had parts from 34 and 35.

Gilbert · 19 Nov 2006, 18:15 (Ref:1769736)

Hello everybody,

I would like to have some informations about the 21 B36 chassis numbers, specially the ones delivered in France, to ROC and may be other people.

I only know that B36-76-01 is the "Apache" (won the last Targa Florio in 1977)
B36-76-2 may be the Lancia Fortuna
B36-76-5 may be currently in the US
B36-76-6 may be also in the US but may be a ROC

Thanks for any help!

allenbrown · 1 Dec 2006, 14:25 (Ref:1779523)

Regarding B35-76-01 (or at least we think it's 01), Andy Barton Jr has confirmed that the B35 was rebuilt with B40 bits as his 'B40' in 1978.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Barton

What I can tell you about the Chevron B40 was that it was the B35 with a few bits B40 bits. Dad wanted to re-build it completely as a B40 after he crashed it but the B40 suspension etc. was not available to him at the time.
Dad hated the B35, said the handling was crap...that's why Chevron quickly brought out the B40.

Allen

allenbrown · 16 Mar 2007, 19:09 (Ref:1868477)

Chevron B35-ROC appearances in 1976:

Charnisay 14 Mar 1976
(Roger Rivoire B29-ROC 2nd – ex-Beltoise car lent by Stalder)

Hockenheim 11 Apr 1976
Jean-Pierre Jaussaud 76-03 5th

Thruxton (Monday) 19 Apr 1976
Jaussaud DNA

Col St Pierre 25 Apr 1976
Rivoire 4th (‘new’, plain blue with barely a sticker in sight)

Bourbach 2 May 1976
Rivoire crashed (drives a borrowed March 742 thereafter)

Vallelunga 9 May 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 6th ('his brand new Chevron replacing the one borrowed from a French hillcimber for the first races')

Salzburgring 23 May 1976
Jaussaud 76-03 DNQ (nptr) - this chassis number must be suspect

Pau 7 Jun 1976
Jaussaud 76-03 DNQ (nptr) - this chassis number must be suspect

Hockenheim 20 Jun 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 Ret

Rouen 27 Jun 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 DNQ

Boyeux-Saint Jerome 4 Jul 1976
Rivoire 6th (not adapting to his new car)

Beaujolais 11 Jul 1976
Rivoire 2nd

Mugello 11 Jul 1976
Jaussaud 76-03 DNQ
Servannin 76-09 DNQ

Tancarville 14 Jul 1976
Rivoire 3rd

Cacherat 18 Jul 1976
Rivoire 3rd

Sisteron St-Geniez 25 Jul 1976
Rivoire 1st

Dunieres 1 Aug 1976
Rivoire 6th

Treffort 8 Aug 1976
Rivoire 2nd

Estoril 8 Aug 1976
Jaussaud DNA

Echelette 29 Aug 1976
Rivoire 2nd
Fredy Canin 5th (debut, sponsored by RG Auto, car appears white with pale cockpit surround)

Gua 5 Sep 1976
Canin 3rd
(Jean Lachaud B29-ROC 2nd – lent by Stalder for two events)

Limonest Mt-Verdun 12 Sep 1976
Rivoire 4th
Canin 9th
(Lachaud B29-ROC 6th)

Soissons 19 Sep 1976
Rivoire 2nd

Bayard 19 Sep 1976
Canin 3rd

Nogaro 19 Sep 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 9th

Vence 26 Sep 1976
Rivoire 3rd
Canin 6th

Hockenheim 26 Sep 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 DNQ

Ledenon (circuit race) 17 Oct 1976
Canin 1st

Valflaunes 24 Oct 1976
Canin 1st

It certainly looks as if there are three B35-ROCs here. Does anyone have a picture of the Jaussaud car in 1976?

Allen

allenbrown · 17 Mar 2007, 09:19 (Ref:1868955)

I wonder if Andre Chevalley's 1977 car was identified as 'ex-Jaussaud' somewhere and F1R has extrapolated that into identifying it as 76-03. It would make a lot more sense if it was 76-09 and 76-03 is the Rivoire car, then going to Jean Lachaud for 1977. Fredy Canin's car, which he retains for 1977, looks like it's an addition to our list.

Allen

Steve Wilkinson · 14 Dec 2007, 12:40 (Ref:2088706)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

From what I recall, the Barton car was ex-Marazzi, so I suggest we go with Chris' version, ie we don't believe F1R on this matter. Isn't it good to see some interesting threads on here again !!

Motoring News Thursday 10th February 1977 confirms that the B35 that Barton bought was the ex-Roberto Marazzi Trivellato car.

Chris Townsend · 14 Dec 2007, 22:20 (Ref:2089102)

Allen

A little bird tells me that B35-03 was indeed the Rivoire car. It was loaned to ROC because chassis 9 and 11 [yes 11] weren't ready in time for the start of the F2 season, then returned to the hills and badly damaged at Bourbach 2 May. Chevalley's car then makes sense as 09.

Chris

allenbrown · 15 Dec 2007, 10:42 (Ref:2089380)

Thanks Chris

Willing to give me any clues as to the species and plumage of this particular bird?

Chris Townsend · 15 Dec 2007, 23:16 (Ref:2089726)

Has small Chevron markings on its wings

Chris

allenbrown · 29 Aug 2008, 17:47 (Ref:2277591)

Just been talking to George McMillan. He confirmed the history of 76-10 but added that it then went to a lad in Yorkshire in part chop for a Brabham (Brabham went to Robin Smith). The B35 became a supersaloon and appeared in the Donington series. This would have been 1980 - George last raced it at the end of 1979.

Chris Townsend · 29 Aug 2008, 19:05 (Ref:2277640)

Chevalley's car is identified by Autosprint as 03 in 1977, but it's described as a B40. Elsewhere it is described as having been acquired from Harald Ertl and Rolf Stommelen, who had planned to run a two car team that season, so no connection to ROC and no reason for all the engine swapping that would otherwise justify this car as having been Rivoire's car in 1976

Chris

driftwood · 14 Sep 2008, 16:14 (Ref:2290036)

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenbrown

Just been talking to George McMillan. He confirmed the history of 76-10 but added that it then went to a lad in Yorkshire in part chop for a Brabham (Brabham went to Robin Smith). The B35 became a supersaloon and appeared in the Donington series. This would have been 1980 - George last raced it at the end of 1979.

Re Pat Thomas Esprit he told me hios car was Chevron B35 and i paste his answer in a mail to me last month
The Esprit I think it was from someone called Peter Brookfield around the Scarborough area, they owned some glass/china shops callled Leonards. I don't know the chassis number But i willask my mechanic of 25 years
i suspect it was car 10 as it keeps it in the Norf

allenbrown · 14 Sep 2008, 21:59 (Ref:2290355)

Nice work drifty!

What happened to Pat's Esprit after he had it?

driftwood · 16 Sep 2008, 11:14 (Ref:2291696)

was sold to john goulder he had it really shiney on alloy and nice paint job
Pat said he didnt recognise the car!!
after he raced it i cannot recall what happened to it

ossyhodge · 7 May 2011, 18:07 (Ref:2876324)

Find attached a bit of nostalgia taken at the Factory.

It shows 35.76.10. with Geoff Lees Works B34 F3 car behind.

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