Chevron B34

[allenbrown]

And more

I just remembered that a friend of mine from school ( Dave Seaton from Edinburgh, ) whom I still see had what he told me was the Ex Agostini B42, I have queried this with him but he insists that this is the car he says, which is what it was probably sold to him as!however this car was not like any B42 I have ever seen, or worked on! For a start it had an unpainted single pylon wing a la B34 , red B34 bodywork with no screen, and B34 mirrors, the splitter was mounted on the noseframe, not the nosecone, and a 1600 BDA with an FT200 box, what made me suspect it was a B34 was that it had the large 2-3/8"af sports car hubs ( Dave borrowed my large hub socket while he had the car ) that were discontinued on single seat Chevrons at the end of '76, although photos show Richard Trotts' ex Stohr B43 with the large hubs, why, I do not know when all the B38s, 39s, 42s, 43s, 45s, 47s and 48s that I have seen and worked on have all had the small 1-1/8"af hub nut and either small centre hole wheels or large hole wheels with adaptor inserts on them, also it had no dash roll bar only a dash frame the same as my B34. However I would suggest a word with Marcus Pye on this one as Dave hillclimbed the car and therefore I would suggest Marcus may know the car and some of its history.

Incidentally I had to buy some Speedline wheels from March ( the UK racing distributor at that time ) as Chevron issued a warning notice about the front wheel centres on their three piece BBS rimmed wheels cracking across the four spokes at the hub, my dad had just done a deal with Derek Bennet to replace all ours ( which we found were cracked upon testing ) FOC when he sadly passed away, this deal Dave Wilson honoured, but we bought some Speedlines anyway ( which I noticed are still on my car, from the photos sent by Gerald Swan ) and they arrived with small centre holes which we had machined out locally to Chevron factory drawings supplied by the works.

Hope this helps the archives further

Regards Dave

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by allenbrown

And more

I just remembered that a friend of mine from school ( Dave Seaton from Edinburgh, ) whom I still see had what he told me was the Ex Agostini B42, I have queried this with him but he insists that this is the car he says, which is what it was probably sold to him as!however this car was not like any B42 I have ever seen, or worked on! For a start it had an unpainted single pylon wing a la B34 , red B34 bodywork with no screen, and B34 mirrors, the splitter was mounted on the noseframe, not the nosecone, and a 1600 BDA with an FT200 box, what made me suspect it was a B34 was that it had the large 2-3/8"af sports car hubs ( Dave borrowed my large hub socket while he had the car ) that were discontinued on single seat Chevrons at the end of '76, although photos show Richard Trotts' ex Stohr B43 with the large hubs, why, I do not know when all the B38s, 39s, 42s, 43s, 45s, 47s and 48s that I have seen and worked on have all had the small 1-1/8"af hub nut and either small centre hole wheels or large hole wheels with adaptor inserts on them, also it had no dash roll bar only a dash frame the same as my B34. However I would suggest a word with Marcus Pye on this one as Dave hillclimbed the car and therefore I would suggest Marcus may know the car and some of its history.

The above Chevron ended up with Carl Amos and I have it as follows:

1.6 Chevron-Ford BDA B42-78-14/B48

This was the ex Ray Rowan/Stuart Ridge car. Not sure who David Seaton bought it from but it went in part/ex for the Pilbeam he bought from John Garnett and Garnett sold it on to Amos.

[hugh price]

B34-76-29 is the car used by Rupert Keegan to win the 1976 BP Championship. It was sold at the end of 1976 by the Hawke factory to David Brotherston who campaigned it in F3 up until 1980. It then appeared in the ARP Classic F3 Series campaigned successfully by Alistair Ferguson very much in its original state. I purchased the car earlier this year from him though it had been laid up for at least 10 years. It is currently undergoing a chassis up rebuild and will return to the Classic F3 series in 2008 in its original BAF livery. Authenticity of this car and chassis has recently been confirmed by David Brotherston who has great memories of the car.

[allenbrown]

Welcome Hugh, and thanks for this.

[sircosworth]

Can anyone help - I've got hold of a B34 that was driven in SE Asia some time in the mid-late seventies by a malaysian guy called Poturella (i think it's spelled like that), apparently it did most or all of it's racing in Asia. Unfortunately the chassis plate has been 'mislaid' - does anyone know anything about this car or help to trace the chassis number?

[sircosworth]

Hey guys...not sure if this is the right place, but can anyone help - I've got hold of a B34 that was driven in SE Asia some time in the mid-late seventies by a malaysian guy called Poturella (i think it's spelled like that), apparently it did most or all of it's racing in Asia. Unfortunately the chassis plate has been 'mislaid' - does anyone know anything about this car or help to trace the chassis number?

[allenbrown]

Could you mean Pocholo Ramirez? Real name Jose del Rosario Ramirez, he's still racing in the Philippines.

[driftwood]

there will be some stamp on the front of the tub somewhere that will relate to chassi number
is the car complete?

[Chris Townsend]

Is this the B34 that was for sale on race-cars.com?

There were at least three B34s that made their way to SE Asia, all ex Opert cars
34-76-20 went to Del Schloemer by 1979 [don't know where it was 1977-78] then to Amir Mokhtar in early 80s
34-76-21 went to Pocholo Ramirez in 1977 and he still had it in 1983
34-76-25 went to Jov Marcello, 1977 then to Narcisco de la Merced and Luis Camus

Like Drifty says, there ought to be a stamping somewhere on the tub

Chris

[sircosworth]

cool thanks I will check out the tub and report back

[sircosworth]

There's no marks on the tub that I can find but the original owner was definitely Pocholo Ramirez so I'm guessing its chassis 21? Anyone know any more about the history of it? Would it have run as an F2 or FA car?

[allenbrown]

How did you determine that the original owner was Pocholo Ramirez?

[Chris Townsend]

If Ramirez's car then it's ex Opert rental car from 1976, then used by Eddie Marcello in the 1976 Philippines GP.
Would have run only as an Atlantic. B34 was an F3/Atlantic chassis.

Chris

[sircosworth]

Originally Posted by allenbrown

How did you determine that the original owner was Pocholo Ramirez?

because i spoke to a previous owner who bought it off ramirez

[Dan Rear]

Originally Posted by Chris Townsend

If Ramirez's car then it's ex Opert rental car from 1976, then used by Eddie Marcello in the 1976 Philippines GP.
Would have run only as an Atlantic. B34 was an F3/Atlantic chassis.

Chris

Being awkward here Chris, but the Mather/Brill B34D raced as an F2!!

[Chris Townsend]

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

Being awkward here Chris, but the Mather/Brill B34D raced as an F2!!

But it wasn't really a B34, Dan...
It was built up from a tub of a B39 so would technically be nearer to a B40 as an F2

[Fenton]

Richard Parsons B34 Atlantic was red. It was described as being ex Geoff Lees F3. When Richard bought it in early '77 in England he took it straight to Mallory for a race meeting. The car was still fitted with the F3 Mk.9 box so needless to say there wasn't much left of it by the end of the day although I think he finished top 5 despite a box full of trash. He promptly fitted an FT200 on returning to N.Ireland. I think the FT200 internals came out of John Ledlie's written off B29 (Phoenix Park) which was lying in Bill Gowdys garage at the time. Don't know where the FT casing came from. The B34 held joint lap records at Kirkistown and Pheonix Park along with Billy Gowdy (Ralt RT1) and Harold McGarrity (B39). It won 7 Northern Ireland Hillclimb Championships and was eventually sold to George Ritchie in Scotland who I believe modified the cars fuel tank for hillclimbing and upped it to an 1800. The B34 definitely had a chassis plate as I cleaned the car often enough! Memory too bad these days to remember the number though! As to the B34's current whereabouts I have no idea.
There were definitely no other B34's in Ireland.

[MONDELLO MAN]

very impressive thoughts from Fenton , would there be a family link?

[Dan Rear]

Fenton, do you mean Richard bought it in early 79, not 77. I saw him out in it in March 79 at the first FAt meeting that year at Mallory. I can't recall him in it in early 77 there??? As you say, he went v well in it at that meeting, very very wet indeed, and won by Alo L.

[Fenton]

Well spotted! Yes I meant 79 and I am Richards brother.

[raceannouncer]

Originally Posted by Chris Townsend

Unknown B34s

Atlantic

Bobby Brown [delivered Feb 76]

Bernard Juchli races this 1976 Chevron B34. At Portland, he said it was ex-Brown.



More info here:

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras...e-trophy/#more

Merry Christmas, all.

Vince H.

[marc sproule]

As I wade my way through this site I keep stumbling onto threads that I may or may not have something to contribute.

So it is with this thread. In my Formula Atlantic set I have uploaded at least two snaps that may be of two of the cars discussed here. I may have misappropriately disidenitified them chassis-wise.

I say may because it's late, I need my beauty rest and I've just expended gobs of old man energy getting the Tiga Formula Atlantic thread back on track and I don't have time to fix my errors if indeed they are errors.

So have at it folks! I'll stand corrected if need be.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/4668198...7623186773769/

[Slotdoc77]

I have recently purchased chassis b34 76 03 and it currently being stripped and rebuilt. From what i understand it is the ex Bill Brack (Killarney Cape Town) and then Guy Tunmer car.

I'm looking to build a complete history as well as searching for pictures of the car particularly in the 1976 series as the idea is to restore it to period correct livery and specification.

[mrg36]

Spotted this rather sad B34 when filling my car up with petrol in Malaysia earlier this week.



From an earlier thread it would appear to be chassis nr 20 as driven by Amir Mokhtar but I couldn't get any closer to verify.

Any info on the history of this car and/or photo's would be appreciated.

Thx

Martin

[Chris Townsend]

Originally Posted by mrg36

Spotted this rather sad B34 when filling my car up with petrol in Malaysia earlier this week.



From an earlier thread it would appear to be chassis nr 20 as driven by Amir Mokhtar but I couldn't get any closer to verify.

Any info on the history of this car and/or photo's would be appreciated.

Thx

Martin

Think it was an Opert team car in 1976, perhaps that of Gordon Smiley.
Please rescue it!

Chris