WEC Porsche Prototype Discussion - Page 90

Maelochs · 19 Jul 2013, 22:48 (Ref:3279528)

I guess what everyone really wants out of a "sports car Journalist" is Murphy the Bear ... Oh, wait, didn't "sports car fans" crap all over him, too?

Seems the common denominator is people who call themselves sports car fans whose favorite sport is actually flinging crap at people.

Anyone who has the chops is free to step up and replace Mr. Dagys ... seems some folks think that would be easy to do.

Have at it. Post links here, so we can flin ... read your stuff and comment.

gregtummer · 19 Jul 2013, 23:41 (Ref:3279536)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelochs

I guess what everyone really wants out of a "sports car Journalist" is Murphy the Bear ... Oh, wait, didn't "sports car fans" crap all over him, too?

Seems the common denominator is people who call themselves sports car fans whose favorite sport is actually flinging crap at people.

Anyone who has the chops is free to step up and replace Mr. Dagys ... seems some folks think that would be easy to do.

Have at it. Post links here, so we can flin ... read your stuff and comment.

Yep. They are guttersnipes. Cowards who hide in the shadows and fling crap at hard working, good people.

TF110 · 20 Jul 2013, 04:29 (Ref:3279584)

Wheres the Porsche thread?

The Badger · 20 Jul 2013, 06:56 (Ref:3279597)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Bizarre post.

As a journalist, I would expect he doesn't like to get involved in speculation or rumors,
Richard

What a load of crap that is ..... journalists always put their spin on stories . Ask me , I know all about that !!!

Maelochs · 20 Jul 2013, 11:51 (Ref:3279655)

Well, that's your spin on that story ...

Richard C · 20 Jul 2013, 18:26 (Ref:3279764)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

What a load of crap that is ..... journalists always put their spin on stories . Ask me , I know all about that !!!

Thanks for the highly selective quoting. Any comments about the smoke and fire part which finishes the point I was trying to make?

Of course there is a significant portion of reporters who make a living reporting on rumors (I am not sure I call them journalists). And everyone has some type of bias.

Richard

**Aysedasi** · 20 Jul 2013, 20:02 (Ref:3279797)

As TF110 kindly mentioned, this is the Porsche LMP1 thread.

Discussion of journalists ended at post #2231. Thank you.

Back to topic - PLEASE.

The Badger · 21 Jul 2013, 09:19 (Ref:3279937)

Anyone seen a pic of the rear of this chassis yet ..... where do the exhausts exit ?

I also expect to see a 3 car team from them at Le Mans next year .

Who are the nominated drivers so far please ?

Victor_RO · 21 Jul 2013, 09:22 (Ref:3279938)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Anyone seen a pic of the rear of this chassis yet ..... where do the exhausts exit ?

I also expect to see a 3 car team from them at Le Mans next year .

Who are the nominated drivers so far please ?

No pics of the rear end, we don't know where the exhausts exit, they'd be fools and madmen to not bring 3 cars, and they have 4 announced drivers so far: Bernhard, Dumas, Jani and Webber.

Brake dust · 21 Jul 2013, 12:17 (Ref:3279979)

Do you think they will run with 3 driver teams throughout the WEC or only for the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Hope it's 3 driver teams throughout the year - all drivers need time behind the wheel in race conditions.

Mr Pink · 21 Jul 2013, 15:03 (Ref:3280006)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Anyone seen a pic of the rear of this chassis yet ..... where do the exhausts exit ?

I also expect to see a 3 car team from them at Le Mans next year .

Who are the nominated drivers so far please ?

Maybe 2 factory run cars and 1 Penske if there's substance to the rumors?

Félix · 21 Jul 2013, 16:24 (Ref:3280047)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

No pics of the rear end, we don't know where the exhausts exit, they'd be fools and madmen to not bring 3 cars, and they have 4 announced drivers so far: Bernhard, Dumas, Jani and Webber.

Exhaust has to exit 30 cm from rear edge of car and must be visible from top in 2014.

Victor_RO · 21 Jul 2013, 16:27 (Ref:3280049)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Félix

Exhaust has to exit 30 cm from rear edge of car and must be visible from top in 2014.

I thought that was the rule in F1, not LMP1?

deggis · 21 Jul 2013, 16:34 (Ref:3280052)

Can't find that anything like that from the draft regs.

deggis · 22 Jul 2013, 07:37 (Ref:3280396)

Just realized that Martini is an official sponsor of Supercup also the guest car is Martini liveried.

http://www.martiniracing.com

Really don't expect to see this move to the P1 program but I guess all hope is not lost.

**Adam43** · 22 Jul 2013, 07:48 (Ref:3280397)

Was there an exercise in gauging public reaction with the display at Goodwood too?

Although it is all pointless at Le Mans as mentioned above.

cdsvg · 22 Jul 2013, 10:58 (Ref:3280447)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

Can't find that anything like that from the draft regs.

Exhaust pipe outlets must not be inside the diffuser.
No point of these outlets must be situated less than 300 mm
from the trailing edge of the rear diffuser.
Any point of these outlets must be visible when seen from
above or the side.

deggis · 22 Jul 2013, 13:18 (Ref:3280482)

Now I can find - probably just missed it since I only used Ctrl+F technique on the pdf.

Cuttlefish · 22 Jul 2013, 14:54 (Ref:3280507)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

Although it is all pointless at Le Mans as mentioned above.

How specific are the alcohol rules at Le Mans / in France? Can they run the livery -- maybe even with a logo silhouette without the text? Something like Ferrari's Marlboro barcode?

Gingers4Justice · 22 Jul 2013, 16:33 (Ref:3280526)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuttlefish

How specific are the alcohol rules at Le Mans / in France? Can they run the livery -- maybe even with a logo silhouette without the text? Something like Ferrari's Marlboro barcode?

The logo would be too much, but is there anything to stop them running the Martini "stripe"? I doubt it. It's just a stripe.

The Badger · 22 Jul 2013, 18:19 (Ref:3280558)

There was a British team running a Porsche a couple yeaars ago with the Martini stripes ..... so I dont see an issue with the stripe's .

Félix · 22 Jul 2013, 19:00 (Ref:3280574)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdsvg

Exhaust pipe outlets must not be inside the diffuser.
No point of these outlets must be situated less than 300 mm
from the trailing edge of the rear diffuser.
Any point of these outlets must be visible when seen from
above or the side.

Visible from the side changes it all; I hadn't read that part... Blowing the rear "cheesewedges" is the most efficient solution when blowing the diffuser itself is not possible, so I guess that's why we haven't seen rear pictures of the car. And a non-diesel engine is much better for exhaust gas flow and thus blowing potential.

TF110 · 22 Jul 2013, 22:34 (Ref:3280642)

Those would have to be side exiting exhausts I assume, just behind the rear wheels.

silente · 23 Jul 2013, 08:18 (Ref:3280724)

but then to be really effective you should have two exhaust exits, like in a typical V engine, right?

Richard117 · 24 Jul 2013, 15:46 (Ref:3281183)

I'm still expecting Porsche with some kind of Red Bull livery.
Because Mateschitz said earlier that Webber is leaving the Red Bull team, not the Red Bull family.
And Neel Jani is/was part of the Red Bull program too.

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