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GRAND PRIX DE L'AGE D'OR
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7 Jun 2019 to 9 Jun 2019 06:30 to 17:00
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Peter Auto annual visit and always very popular. Likely to be very crowded paddock with added grids to include Formula Junior Lurani and Jaguar Challenge.

Best arrive very early....
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Old 9 Jun 2019, 07:09 (Ref:3908734)   #61
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CER 1 race.917 and 512 running together,1st and 2nd.
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Not quite so close together at end, but good to watch in early race! The B19 finished P3 in class and P5 o/a, so another podium for the team this morning!

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The Newish 2.0 L Cup seems to have been a very good addition
Cracking race it looked like at the front.

512 or 917? I could never decide.

Sound 512.

Looks 917.

Lovely pic Mike.2 Wins for that car now.Doesn't the owner also have a Martini one.One is Road legal I think 😍.
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Thanks for the pics, Mike. Impressive max speeds, 275/ 274 for the Ferrari and Porsche. Really fast. 250 kph for the best Batmobile is not slow… Congratulations to all involved in your team and… the other one, of course!!!
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So, a quick resume of our 60s Endurance race, as it’s raining at the circuit now and I’m hiding from it.

Gareth started the Elva and fought his way up to 4th overall at one point, which was impressive, to say the least. Michael took over at half way and ‘nurtured’ the car home for 11th, winning class GT2 by nearly 2 laps from the Brit 26R of Alex Montgomery and Nick Sleep. The favoured Elans either broke or fell off, which is not unusual..... 5th in class and 30th o/a in the numerically big GT2 field were the Stephens family and their familiar 356, ahead of many 911s, all the MGBs and other supposedly faster cars. Excellent result as usual.

The two SLRs got good starts, but with the shiny one from several places higher on the grid. Both were started by the owners. The red car started to misfire at high revs on the straight after 30 minutes or so (usually pulling 7k by braking point), but the lap times were only a little slower, so Simon pressed on. John’s car was climbing up the order, got ahead of the Healeys and looked good for GT3 honours. One SC period during the first hour. Both cars then swapped to second drivers, Bill taking over the shiny one and me the red car. Almost immediately there was another short SC period, but I could already feel the misfire problem. For most of the lap it wasn’t a hindrance, but on the straight it was costing a couple of seconds. During the SC period the shiny car suddenly stopped on the side of the track. Bill refused ‘assistance’ and after a few minutes found the problem to be the low tension wire into the dizzy. He managed a ‘bodge’ repair and rejoined, but quite a lot down. From then on it was flat out to the end, apart from one more SC to recover a beached car. By now the red car was P2 in class, and able to slowly draw away from the Healey behind. Then, with less than 10 minutes to go, the class leading Healey spun at the end of the main straight, only rejoining the track after I was past. Talk about all your christmas’s coming at once!

So that’s why it all looked a bit confused on live timing, Gerard! We assumed that the under 2.5 litre championship podium would be Elva, 26R and red SLR, but the goal posts seemed to have moved again, and the GT160 was not included in the category. So 26R, SLR and first 911 home instead. The shiny Morgan still finished 29th o/a and 5th in the Under 2.5s, so some valuable championship points gained. With main opposition not entered or finishing much lower down the order, not the disaster it could have been.....

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Phew Mike, this is a race report. As you understood live timing was almost impossible to understand specially when your red SLR took the lead. I didnt know about your driver's mechanic skills, gosh he's a godd spanering partner too.
I guess your misfire troubles came from the dizzy as well or is it more serious? I wont comment about the Elva category input. What a fast car.
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Comments on Elva would be welcome!
Should be quick car.
Built for 65 Le Mans
Only two BMW cars built with other one owned on West Coast of US.
Chris Amon used it later as his road car!!
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Sorry John, I've not been clear here. Yes its a rare car, wonderful and really fast no doubt about that. I was trying to tell Mike that I won't comment the fact that the category input can change during the same season for a given car. This I won't comment because its up to any organisation.
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Sorry John, I've not been clear here. Yes its a rare car, wonderful and really fast no doubt about that. I was trying to tell Mike that I won't comment the fact that the category input can change during the same season for a given car. This I won't comment because its up to any organisation.
Not understanding but I am very old!
What is the category input?
Class?
Peter Auto decide that?
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I'm very very old, no worry. From Mike's sentences:
We assumed that the under 2.5 litre championship podium would be Elva, 26R and red SLR, but the goal posts seemed to have moved again, and the GT160 was not included in the category. So 26R, SLR and first 911 home instead.
Yes, Peter Auto or any organisation can decide this I guess. They introduced that a copy/continuation/recreation could have a kind of rating vs authentic cars in a near future. Good thing imo. May be its my understanding which is not good, Mike will confirm I hope.
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Yes, Peter Auto or any organisation can decide this I guess. They introduced that a copy/continuation/recreation could have a kind of rating vs authentic cars in a near future. Good thing imo. May be its my understanding which is not good, Mike will confirm I hope.
The Ďmoving goalpostsí weíve often experienced in the Under 2.5 litre results revolve around whether a carís HTP declares it as a GTS or GTP. In previous seasons the Porsche 904 would bounce in or out of the category, and we were told that at least one car had papers as a GTS car, but others didnít. We also at one time had Lotus XVs included, then not. Iíve no idea what Michaelís Elva is classed as on its papers, but if itís GTS then I would have thought it should be included. But as weíve repeatedly said, PA Make the rules.....

Regarding the red carís misfire, Gerard, my first guess is the Rev limiter. Itís one of those small boxes that seem to have a reputation for unreliability! After that, itís replace Master Switch and Ignition Switch. Iím not a fan of the latter on race cars, but the owner likes it!
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If you're talking about a brand starting with an O and ending with an X, I had issues too with the basic version. Misfires then later a brand new rev counter kaput!
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If you're talking about a brand starting with an O and ending with an X, I had issues too with the basic version. Misfires then later a brand new rev counter kaput!
I think the make may begin with an A and end with H, but looks the same. Same thing happened when the car raced at Silverstone last month (while I was at Spa), fine for 30 mins or so then high speed misfire starts. Suggests to me electronics starting to fail.....
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Yep, looking on some forums leads you to this kind of conclusion. I presume you have a narrow choice, either no limiter, or an MSD box or this kind of gizmo. Do you remember the old style Bosch rotor arms? At first glance no very much encouraging but experience showed those to be convenient and reliable. In one word, simple.
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