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DONINGTON Masters Historic Festival
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8 Jun 2019 to 9 Jun 2019 07:30 to 18:00
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Location: Castle Donington

A new event for 2019. To include a 3hr race for ‘Spa 6hrs eligible’ cars, and HSCC ‘STCC’ or as now known, 'Dunlop Saloon Car Cup' cars.
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Old 8 Jun 2019, 11:21 (Ref:3908627)   #31
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I, too, thought that Download in recent years had been outside the circuit boundary.
https://downloadfestival.co.uk/info/

This should link to a page with a map of the site although oddly for some reason I can't zoom it to a sensible size using Firefox.

It looks line the camp site to main area route is allowing some passage across the centre of the track but also there seem to be some reserved areas on the inside as well. Looks like these are for disabled facilities and camping.

Internet Explorer is not much better than Firefox although it does, sort of, allow the map thumbnail to expand a little. On can see just how much of the circuit and surrounding area is used.
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Old 8 Jun 2019, 11:47 (Ref:3908629)   #32
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https://downloadfestival.co.uk/info/

This should link to a page with a map of the site although oddly for some reason I can't zoom it to a sensible size using Firefox.

It looks line the camp site to main area route is allowing some passage across the centre of the track but also there seem to be some reserved areas on the inside as well. Looks like these are for disabled facilities and camping.

Internet Explorer is not much better than Firefox although it does, sort of, allow the map thumbnail to expand a little. On can see just how much of the circuit and surrounding area is used.
I see. Thanks. When I went to “Monsters of Rock” (yes, really) in my youth the only stage was inside the circuit just in front of the Old Hairpin. The crowd stood on the spectator bank looking down from main straight/ old Exhibition centre site. In far more recent years, all the stages have been outside the circuit boundary’s.
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I see. Thanks. When I went to “Monsters of Rock” (yes, really) in my youth the only stage was inside the circuit just in front of the Old Hairpin. The crowd stood on the spectator bank looking down from main straight/ old Exhibition centre site. In far more recent years, all the stages have been outside the circuit boundary’s.
I recall the photos form when the even was mainly inside the track.

I think that changed, or started to change, somewhere in the Gillett period around the time the MotoX track was created. Then other 'developments' took place that extended the potential for hard standing (of sorts) in the paddock area (even before it was tarred over) although the Formula E buildings development slightly impinged on that.

Camping and car parking arrangements seem to have evolved over the years too.

Must be a bit chaotic this weekend and for any events on during the week although in past years the tidy-up activity after the event is usually quite rapid. Just a few days.

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5 runners in Sportscars.Oh dear.One of those races.

If only the drivers who race at the Classic or Spa could come out more often.
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5 runners in Sportscars.Oh dear.One of those races.

If only the drivers who race at the Classic or Spa could come out more often.

Quite a high attrition rate in the race and I think they lost one or two in qualifying.

Ric Wood won the first Dunlop race but it seems he did not start the second.
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Ric didn't do race 2 as he didn't need to. He would have won by miles. It is odd having a 2008 V8 Supercar in a series for older touring cars pre 2005 to 1970.

The series is already starting to struggle. The types of cars in the series always seem to be a lap away from a mechanical problem for some reason. Look at race 2 results from Silverstone.
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Ric didn't do race 2 as he didn't need to. He would have won by miles.
hmm... well that's what the commentary said at least.

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The car isn't eligible for points and it's an invitation entry.

Nice to have it though. Sure sounds nice.
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The car isn't eligible for points and it's an invitation entry.

Nice to have it though. Sure sounds nice.



Quite so.


I can understand why he might not want to run it in the second race.


As an invitation car it's of limited purpose so no point in taking the risk and using up what are probably lifed components if you want to keep the thing operational.


On the other hand if you don't want to do a 20 minute race with relatively few runners (so not a busy track) and the option to run at whatever pace you want ... what else are you going to do with the car?


Track days? Test days for fun?



What options are there, around Europe for example, to run the Holden?


I would probably be quite happy just having in sitting in the garage but there must be more to Ric wanting it than making it a rarely used modern museum piece.


That said if he's happy to give it some exercise once or twice a year I'm sure many people would be happy to see it.
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What options are there, around Europe for example, to run the Holden?
https://classictouringcars.com/thund...-championship/
It's been run in Thunder Saloons a couple of times this year. There are a few other V8 Supercars there as well.
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The car isn't eligible for points and it's an invitation entry.

Nice to have it though. Sure sounds nice.
According to programme notes, Ric was not eligible for trophies or podiums but at the end of race 1 he was on the top step of the paddock podium holding a trophy. I don't think you can blame Alan Hyde for not knowing the podium procedures for each race but someone from the organisers should of stepped in and done something.
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It's been run in Thunder Saloons a couple of times this year. There are a few other V8 Supercars there as well.
Why would Ric want to be a small fish in a big pond when he can beat the touring cars in a car with at least twice the engine size despite a self imposed pit lane drive through penalty.
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V8 supercar or two are regular sights -and sounds -in the Northern Saloons and Sport Car series ; short races but wonderfully mixed , and full grids.
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They're was a series a couple of years ago called UKV8s that was for V8 Supercars in the UK.

However in its only round or two it only got a couple of entries.Since then there has been more of them seen .Probably near to double figures.
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They're was a series a couple of years ago called UKV8s that was for V8 Supercars in the UK.

However in its only round or two it only got a couple of entries.Since then there has been more of them seen .Probably near to double figures.
A James Tucker (ex Britcar chief) initiative. Never took off. Cars were originally built for a Midfle East series.
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