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Old 28 Jan 2020, 10:31 (Ref:3954166)   #61
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A new possibility has emerged - HWA's boss, Hans Werner Aufrecht wants his company to run the Aston Martin project - there are now five Vantages as the additional one was built over the off-season and they haven't been sold to China. One of the biggest hurdles is the fact that R-Motorsport holds Aston Martin's license to run the team and three-year deal is allegedly in place. There are some fierce discussions between HWA and R-Motorsport (we can assume both parties are not particularly kind to each other) and HWA would need to find money to run the Aston team in DTM. But Berger is working on that. Who knows, maybe we will see Astons this year?
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Old 28 Jan 2020, 11:12 (Ref:3954175)   #62
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A new possibility has emerged - HWA's boss, Hans Werner Aufrecht wants his company to run the Aston Martin project - there are now five Vantages as the additional one was built over the off-season and they haven't been sold to China. One of the biggest hurdles is the fact that R-Motorsport holds Aston Martin's license to run the team and three-year deal is allegedly in place. There are some fierce discussions between HWA and R-Motorsport (we can assume both parties are not particularly kind to each other) and HWA would need to find money to run the Aston team in DTM. But Berger is working on that. Who knows, maybe we will see Astons this year?
Sounds like a long shot, but would be cool to see the Astons back again
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Old 28 Jan 2020, 12:39 (Ref:3954197)   #63
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It definitely is but let's hope they will be able to work it out. If R Motorsport can't then someone else may run Aston's programme especially given the manufacturer was positive about "their" participation.
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Old 28 Jan 2020, 14:32 (Ref:3954214)   #64
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After what R-Motorsport promised and did not deliver to DTM fans, it would be good if they would handle the rights to HWA asap and foc. If you can accept losing, you can't win.
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Old 28 Jan 2020, 15:31 (Ref:3954228)   #65
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After what R-Motorsport promised and did not deliver to DTM fans, it would be good if they would handle the rights to HWA asap and foc. If you can accept losing, you can't win.
What do you think they owed DTM fans?
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Old 28 Jan 2020, 17:15 (Ref:3954247)   #66
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To say they owe anything is probably an overstatement but I agree with Juntos. R Motorsport was seen as sort of a DTM's saviour with third manufacturer and claims coming from Aston Martin's CEO that they plan long-term future in DTM with possible increase of factory support. To see them moving out less than three months before start of the season, saying they thought it over and decided it doesn't make sense it's a massive disappointment. Didn't they see 'no sense' before deciding to enter?
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Old 29 Jan 2020, 16:41 (Ref:3954446)   #67
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A new possibility has emerged - HWA's boss, Hans Werner Aufrecht wants his company to run the Aston Martin project......
Afraid not. AM say no https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/...e-hwa/4678087/
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Old 29 Jan 2020, 17:16 (Ref:3954453)   #68
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Life is a boomerang.

They only say 'no' to a factory effort -> ďThere are no plans for Aston Martin Lagonda to become a works supplier of the DTM series,Ē spokesperson for the British manufacturer told

AM is smart enough to understand that if HWA enters their cars it is a gift from the Gods!
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Old 29 Jan 2020, 22:01 (Ref:3954481)   #69
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I'm afraid under no circumstances will Aston give permission to use the cars. I know they spoke about works entry and HWA Aston wouldn't be truly factory team (R Motorsport wasn't either) but HWA would need to get Aston's license and I believe this won't happen.

Let alone the fact cars are unfit to race and HWA doesn't have financing put in place for a season in DTM. Shame. Hope was slim but now there is no hope at all
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Old 30 Jan 2020, 16:12 (Ref:3954585)   #70
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If the championships continues, please add pitting windows. It's incredibly boring to see half the grid 30 seconds behind the leader on lap 3.
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Old 30 Jan 2020, 18:06 (Ref:3954602)   #71
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If the championships continues, please add pitting windows. It's incredibly boring to see half the grid 30 seconds behind the leader on lap 3.
Somehow I agree with you. But I'm sure Herr Berger is now more worried about getting 2 or 4 extra cars in the grid. A 14-car grid will make DTM look ridiculous. The best thing about the future is that it comes one day at a time.
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Old 31 Jan 2020, 10:23 (Ref:3954720)   #72
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Audi have confirmed the same 6 drivers as last year.
https://www.touringcartimes.com/2020...20-dtm-season/

And a rumour is circulating, that Aberdein is the favourite for the remaining BMW seat, so a customer team might come with the money of Kubica involved, we'll see.
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Old 2 Feb 2020, 12:25 (Ref:3955275)   #73
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According to Motorsport Magazin talks with Toyota and Honda are ongoing about them joining DTM in 2020 and chances seem reasonable. Nissan's entrance is out of question. Toyota's participation would be even more sensible as they will be able to promote their new Supra.

Aberdein being in a factory BMW is very likely while Kubica will be a customer BMW driver.
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Old 2 Feb 2020, 17:12 (Ref:3955308)   #74
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Thatís an encouraging sign if those two manufacturers are looking to join for this season. Will help keep the numbers up at this difficult time
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Old 2 Feb 2020, 18:02 (Ref:3955322)   #75
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Yes, we've got 12 factory seats, 3 customer (I think Kubica is in for 99%) so 15. If Toyota and Honda field two cars each, we have 19. That's a reasonable number and a chance that both Japanese manufacturers may expand in the future. Also, according to Motorsport Magazin, HWA-Aston Martin marriage is still not ruled out. However, as far as I'm concerned this won't work out.
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