Official Chinese Grand Prix 2019: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Round 3 of 21 - Page 2

GT6 · 13 Apr 2019, 12:28 (Ref:3897211)

Mercedes seem to have found something in qualy.

MCWB · 13 Apr 2019, 13:35 (Ref:3897215)

Some interesting team radio post Q3!

Leclerc annoyed at himself:

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Leclerc: F**k, I did mistakes. Come on, Charles! F**k. S**t.

Ferrari: Positions, Bottas P1, Hamilton P2, Sebastian P3 and yourself P4. Sebastian laptime [1m]31.84[s], and yourself – [1m]31.86[s].

Leclerc: Come on! F**k. F***ing stupid. F***ing stupid. What's the pole lap?

Ferrari: Pole lap, [1m]31.54[s]. 31.54. Stay negative [below the maximum in-lap time], stay negative.

Ferrari: It was a good recovery, ok? From FP3 and all the issues-

Leclerc: Yeah, but not good enough. Not good enough. Not good enough from me, on my side. Not speaking about the car, car was good. I should've done better, that's it.

Ferrari: Tomorrow it's the race.

Verstappen annoyed at everyone:

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LAMBIASE: Mate, you need to go now.

VERSTAPPEN [after the chequered flag came out]: Ah mate, f*****g hell. I’m finished right?

ENGINEER: We are finished.

VERSTAPPEN: They are such w**kers honestly. Everybody just lining up and they are just f*****g it up. You’re just trying to be nice but everybody’s just f*****g it up.

Magnussen and Grosjean not particularly impressed either... a bit messy all round there!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 13 Apr 2019, 14:06 (Ref:3897222)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Now, now, you know full well that for a variety of historical reasons China has only been able to join the technological age and promote private car ownership in the past 30 years. These days, many Chinese people are very wealthy and are exactly the audience for Mercedes-Benz and other prestige cars promoted by Formula One.

Is that why they bus the spectators in and the stands at Turn 12 are always empty?

Anyway congrats to Bottas, on his second pole of the season. Can he translate that into another win?

F1Pete · 13 Apr 2019, 14:41 (Ref:3897224)

Based on the coverage, it seemed female fans dominated the stands.

Poor Valtteri. When Hammy takes pole, Toto et al. go ballistic when the cameras are on them. Bottas takes the pole and it's just smiles.

The only person(s) who have Valtteri's back are the guys in his garage and it pretty much ends there.

It was evident in Toto's interview where he didn't seem ecstatic being 1-2.
Disappointment was written all over his face...

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ApexTurtle · 13 Apr 2019, 14:53 (Ref:3897226)

Is it too early to start talking about Mercedes backing Bottas for the season? Is Hamilton's reign at Mercedes over?

Akrapovic · 13 Apr 2019, 15:41 (Ref:3897229)

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Originally Posted by ApexTurtle

Is it too early to start talking about Mercedes backing Bottas for the season? Is Hamilton's reign at Mercedes over?

Way too early. Bottas was not in a position to challenge for the win in Bahrain. If Lewis wins tomorrow then he leads the championship.

**Aysedasi** · 13 Apr 2019, 15:45 (Ref:3897231)

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Originally Posted by ApexTurtle

Is it too early to start talking about Mercedes backing Bottas for the season? Is Hamilton's reign at Mercedes over?

No. Absurd.

ApexTurtle · 13 Apr 2019, 16:09 (Ref:3897235)

GT6 · 13 Apr 2019, 16:34 (Ref:3897236)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Way too early. Bottas was not in a position to challenge for the win in Bahrain. If Lewis wins tomorrow then he leads the championship.

And if Bottas wins he will be even further ahead

**Adam43** · 13 Apr 2019, 17:15 (Ref:3897244)

That’s true he will extend his 1 point lead!

gert · 13 Apr 2019, 17:16 (Ref:3897245)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Way too early.

Way too early indeed. But equally it is way too early to discount him.

I think it is smart for the top teams to bet on their 2 horses as long as they are close together and only start giving preferrential treatment to 1 of them as soon as the other has fallen (way) behind.

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Bottas was not in a position to challenge for the win in Bahrain. If Lewis wins tomorrow then he leads the championship.

That's true, but the same could be said of Hamilton in Australia.

Broken floor in one case, platic bag in the other. How much influence that really had is anyone's guess.

**Aysedasi** · 13 Apr 2019, 17:17 (Ref:3897246)

It's anyone's game (well, within reason. Kubica and Russell are probably long shots.....

).

gert · 13 Apr 2019, 17:26 (Ref:3897248)

The last run of Q3 was a mess.
That just had to happen at some moment.
If every team waits until the last possible moment to make that 2nd run, someone is going to lose out in the end.
Today that were 4 "someones".

Instead of blaming all others, Verstappen should blame his team. They could have sent him out a bit earlier instead but didn't.
There are 12 minutes of Q3 and that is more than enough time to do outlap - qually lap - inlap - change tires - outlap.

At least Magnussen was quite realistic in his assessment and didn't blame Vettel, Hulkenberg or Ricciardo - instead he said they did the right thing.

**Adam43** · 13 Apr 2019, 18:16 (Ref:3897255)

It was refreshing to see Leclerc take the blame himself. However that isn’t the norm in motto racing drivers, or indeed people.

He and his team could have come up with a better, less risky, plan. However Verstappen is a person, a motor racing striver and a Verstappen so it will always be someone else’s fault.

Akrapovic · 13 Apr 2019, 18:57 (Ref:3897265)

Verstappen: How dare drivers be on my track. What are they doing?

ApexTurtle · 13 Apr 2019, 19:24 (Ref:3897275)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

It was refreshing to see Leclerc take the blame himself. However that isn’t the norm in motto racing drivers, or indeed people.

He and his team could have come up with a better, less risky, plan. However Verstappen is a person, a motor racing striver and a Verstappen so it will always be someone else’s fault.

A striver even? Is that better than a driver?

In all seriousness, when he actually does something stupid Verstappen always takes the blame.

Akrapovic · 13 Apr 2019, 19:30 (Ref:3897276)

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Originally Posted by ApexTurtle

In all seriousness, when he actually does something stupid Verstappen always takes the blame.

Really?

Greem · 13 Apr 2019, 19:47 (Ref:3897277)

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Originally Posted by ApexTurtle

A striver even? Is that better than a driver?

In all seriousness, when he actually does something stupid Verstappen always takes the blame.

I refer the honourable gentleman to Mr Verstappen's "something stupid" moment in Brazil last year, where he most certainly did not shoulder any blame whatsoever despite being at the very least equally culpable for the incident.

I know, I know, I've done that before, but still: he's a hot headed hotshoe and needs to calm down just a bit, then he could be the genius within.

F1Pete · 13 Apr 2019, 19:52 (Ref:3897278)

It's just daunting for Bottas knowing that not only does he have to beat his team mate, he has to beat his employer as well.

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djinvicta · 13 Apr 2019, 20:16 (Ref:3897280)

Bottas isn't silly/stupid.. He joined Merc for a lot of money compared to our salaries knowing he had LH there. I saw the documentary.. He stated he was at Merc because he knew he could beat LH..
Except Merc is built around LH.. Refer to Rubens/Eddie..who's the fool? Damn good money as No2 if you can get it for a few years, as Eddie Irvine laughs now..
Good on you Bottas.. I'm jealous..

ApexTurtle · 13 Apr 2019, 21:24 (Ref:3897291)

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Originally Posted by Greem

I refer the honourable gentleman to Mr Verstappen's "something stupid" moment in Brazil last year, where he most certainly did not shoulder any blame whatsoever despite being at the very least equally culpable for the incident.

He should have been more careful in hindsight with someone clearly out to get him, absolutely! But the blame for that silly incident lay fully with Ocon. That's why he got punished.

As for Mr Verstappen, he fully accepted the blame for his rather stupid mistakes at the beginning of last year. Especially after that disgraceful performance at this track last year. Perhaps his comments didn't make it to this forum?

**Adam43** · 13 Apr 2019, 22:19 (Ref:3897305)

Are we in pointless argument territory again?

I suppose that floats some people's boat.

Mike Bell · 14 Apr 2019, 05:09 (Ref:3897344)

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Originally Posted by F1Pete

It's just daunting for Bottas knowing that not only does he have to beat his team mate, he has to beat his employer as well.

That drum must be getting close to being worn out by now!

Close at the top, so hope could be an interesting race- especially the first lap. Just got to decide whether to waste the afternoon watching highlights or catch up later......

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Apr 2019, 06:14 (Ref:3897353)

Verstappen spins it on the warm up lap. Looks like Kubica did the same.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Apr 2019, 06:19 (Ref:3897354)

That was a very clean start, Lewis taking the lead. Looks like Kvyat clouted both McLarens after Turn 6.

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