2016 WTCC Race of Hungary

Rubio · 19 Apr 2016, 15:04 (Ref:3634863)

New weekend, new WTCC round.
Race preview:
https://www.fiawtcc.com/race-preview...es-in-hungary/

Track facts:
https://www.fiawtcc.com/event/race-of-hungary/

Round will be available for free again on Premium TV.

So, this should be the round where Citroen should dominate the qualifying. But I believe there is a big chance for other manufacturers in the Opening race, because it's almost impossible to overtake here. Though the action might not be that good

Hope that Zengo will rebuild Ficza's car in time. Don't expect Nika (as usual)

CJFG · 20 Apr 2016, 10:32 (Ref:3635078)

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...r-hungaroring/

Two things sprung to mind when I saw that the Hondas would have 70kg added on and the Ladas 50kg.

The first, if Citroen qualify well will they (primarily Lopez) have more of a chance to cut through the field in the reverse-grid race now that others are similarly hindered? Just a thought, though I accept the nature of the Hungaroring makes this unlikely.

Secondly, could Citroen go a whole weekend with whining about having the full 80kg of ballast now that the Hondas carry only 10kg less?

kobefly · 20 Apr 2016, 11:17 (Ref:3635090)

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Originally Posted by CJFG

Secondly, could Citroen go a whole weekend with whining about having the full 80kg of ballast now that the Hondas carry only 10kg less?

Today I was looking at the qualifying stats since Citroën joined WTCC and they have won it 23 out of 26 times.

However, the fact that surprised me the most was that no other factory team scored the remaining 3 poles position (Chilton, Morbidelli and Michelisz).

That makes me wonder... is it Citroën faults that the other factory teams are so poor?

I really do not think they should get punished because of that. And I am talking about the first two rounds of the season running with 80 kilos extras than anyone else and having a fake championship leader right now. The system to apply compensation weight does sound more reasonable to me (even it still punishing those making the best car) but the first two rounds have been absolutely manipulated.

BSchneiderFan · 20 Apr 2016, 11:35 (Ref:3635096)

Unfortunately Citroën is the only manufacturer to have committed properly to the WTCC in recent years. And they are being punished for that, but could probably be a bit more graceful about it. After all, Lopez will probably win the championship again this year, so Citroën's job will be done when they walk away at the end of 2016.

thlbtcc · 20 Apr 2016, 12:39 (Ref:3635110)

Wow, Honda and Lada have a lot of weight there. Gives the Chevys and Volvos a chance of points at least.

CJFG · 20 Apr 2016, 14:07 (Ref:3635136)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Unfortunately Citroën is the only manufacturer to have committed properly to the WTCC in recent years. And they are being punished for that, but could probably be a bit more graceful about it. After all, Lopez will probably win the championship again this year, so Citroën's job will be done when they walk away at the end of 2016.

That's what I wish Citroen would do, be graceful about it or feel aggrieved about it in private. I can understand why Citroen are a bit miffed, having to start 2 rounds with 80kg more than anybody else but constantly moaning about it won't change anything, and after a while, for me anyway, it gets boring.

BSchneiderFan · 20 Apr 2016, 15:01 (Ref:3635149)

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Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Wow, Honda and Lada have a lot of weight there. Gives the Chevys and Volvos a chance of points at least.

Unless Volvo keeps getting excluded!

thlbtcc · 20 Apr 2016, 15:32 (Ref:3635159)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Unless Volvo keeps getting excluded!

True, but rules are rules and other teams managed not to break them. Fingers crossed for Hungary!

Tarzaan · 21 Apr 2016, 17:13 (Ref:3635464)

Weather forecast:

saturday: showers in afternoon

sunday: a cold front with stormy wind, rain and cold of course (13C max predicted temp)

https://www.idokep.hu/elorejelzes/Budapest

Canuck59NHL · 22 Apr 2016, 11:06 (Ref:3635642)

*Results Test:

CJFG · 22 Apr 2016, 12:25 (Ref:3635665)

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Originally Posted by Canuck59NHL

*Results Test:

I think it's likely those Citroens are sandbagging, not expecting them to be so far back (in terms of time) with only 10kg more than the Hondas.

This weekend will be difficult to predict, qualifying especially, as a lot of cars are now carrying substantial extra weight. I couldn't predict a pole-sitter that's for sure.

**FIRE** · 22 Apr 2016, 16:47 (Ref:3635705)

Cheering for Michelisz this round!

Canuck59NHL · 23 Apr 2016, 08:30 (Ref:3635825)

Several drivers(Tarquini,Catsburg,Björk...) were sanctioned not to have to respect the limits of the track.
Lopez made several laps(12) with the same set of tyres.
Filippi met problems with his engine.

S griffin · 23 Apr 2016, 09:22 (Ref:3635828)

Honda and Monteiro are the best thing about the new season and the only thing that I have to go for a change in the world title

Canuck59NHL · 23 Apr 2016, 10:19 (Ref:3635832)

You can follow the live here: Free Practice 2
http://www.fiawtcc.com/live-streaming

Canuck59NHL · 23 Apr 2016, 10:52 (Ref:3635834)

Rubio · 23 Apr 2016, 11:17 (Ref:3635837)

Well, Citroen is definitely sandbagging, but the field seems close, closer than I thought

helmat · 23 Apr 2016, 11:21 (Ref:3635839)

Top 14 within 1sec is really close. Qualifying could be interesting but I expect Citroën to find some time somewhere

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**FIRE** · 23 Apr 2016, 14:56 (Ref:3635864)

Result Q3:

Coronel

Canuck59NHL · 23 Apr 2016, 15:03 (Ref:3635865)

Bjork'll start from last place in Race 1 because he changed his engine.

GM10 · 23 Apr 2016, 22:23 (Ref:3635942)

Coronel very impressive, with Hondas and Ladas ballasted Pechito returns to impose tough gaps.

Tja · 24 Apr 2016, 07:55 (Ref:3635985)

Who thought 100€ for "Premium TV" was a good idea? That pricing is riddiculous for what you get most of the time. Good that it's free for this weekend because Eurosport isn't even showing both races live on their channels.

Canuck59NHL · 24 Apr 2016, 08:37 (Ref:3635989)

In France,Eurosport is accessible only on a single too expensive subscription(CanalSat).To see the WTCC,I subscribed to Eurosport Player.

With Eurosport Player(5.99 euros/month),you can see the live(without the publicity of the channel).

https://twitter.com/FIA_WTCC/status/724141003947577344

Tja · 24 Apr 2016, 09:06 (Ref:3635992)

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Originally Posted by Canuck59NHL

In France,Eurosport is accessible only on a single too expensive subscription(CanalSat).To see the WTCC,I subscribed to Eurosport Player.

With Eurosport Player(5.99 euros/month),you can see the live(without the publicity of the channel).

So Eurosport Player is cheaper than the WTCC Premium package and you get more from it... Full 24h of Le Mans for example.
I really don't understand the WTCC on this. They've got terrible TV coverage most of the time, wouldn't it be smarter to do what TCR and Blancpain GT are doing and offer free live streaming?

Rubio · 24 Apr 2016, 09:27 (Ref:3635997)

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Originally Posted by Tja

So Eurosport Player is cheaper than the WTCC Premium package and you get more from it... Full 24h of Le Mans for example.
I really don't understand the WTCC on this. They've got terrible TV coverage most of the time, wouldn't it be smarter to do what TCR and Blancpain GT are doing and offer free live streaming?

Premium TV is not just live streaming, gives chance to see the race from different cameras (which worked quite well). Really simular model to MotoGP, although MotoGP also allows a lot of old races and wider range of cameras. This is a good initiative, but they need to work on it, for example I had numerous lags with the stream (always in the wrong moment) and i wasn't happy about.

Didn't expect to see only 1 Citroen in Q3. Honda seriously worked with the weight during the winter I guess.

Looking forward to the races, should be the first full rainy weekend (counting races) for TC1 cars, expect the storm in Slovakia two years ago. Wonder which cars have advantage. bet on Citroen with their awesome traction

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