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HSCC INTERNATIONAL TROPHY Silverstone
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HSCC big Silverstone GP circuit meeting, with added GTSCC 90 min and Jaguar Challenge 60 min races. Also first races for the 'Dunlop Saloon Car Cup', previously known as the STCC....
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Old 19 May 2019, 10:02 (Ref:3904630)   #31
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There's building work going on opposite the Wing pitlane so you can't drive round the circuit. If you ignore the road closed signs at the Porsche Centre, you can continue round to Club but not any further.

There was an event on Stowe Circuit, which is why most of that section of the infield was closed.
Thank you for the info. We drove to the Loop this morning without issue
Agree with what has been said above, this meeting was better on the old International circuit before they sold the remaining soul of the place for the MotoGP bikes.
It works on this layout for the Classic only because there are big screens to follow the action.

Still it's a nice sunny day atm
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Old 19 May 2019, 10:13 (Ref:3904633)   #32
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Too far for me sadly, living in Salisbury, but Castle Combe and Thruxton still offer the old style experiences to some extent
Both great circuits, already have my ticket for Thruxton celebration event coming up The only event I go to nowadays at Sillystone is the Walter Hayes FF1600's when there is free access to the BRDC stand giving good viewing of Brookllands, Luffield and Woodcote. Castle Combe is wonderful for spectating almost anywhere around the circuit as you say, I used to go there regularly when helping out with one of the CC saloon competitors.
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Old 19 May 2019, 10:48 (Ref:3904636)   #33
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Agree all that but what an uninspiring place Silverstone, with its prison camp built in an industrial estate ambience, has become. At least for a spectator. The lap is far to long for slower historic cars and the viewing so restricted that one spends most of the time gazing sadly at an empty stretch of unappealing tarmac, roundly cursing the fools who destroyed the place in their doomed chase for some of Ecclestones gold. I spent the day looking at the old bridge before Woodcote where the same cars racing now used to burst out at full speed before hurtling into that fearsome bend, scrabbling and sliding for grip. Gone now forever but still vivid in my memory.
Yes my dad has had many a rant to me and the staff there about the problems you've listed and also about not bothering to open up any grandstand. Just a couple would be nice although we did manage to get into a box next to the main commentary at Silverstone when the gate was left open.

We must have been asked yesterday about 3 or 4 times when spectating from the wing wether we were there for the Single Seater Experience.NO.
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Old 19 May 2019, 17:14 (Ref:3904679)   #34
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Yes my dad has had many a rant to me and the staff there about the problems you've listed and also about not bothering to open up any grandstand. Just a couple would be nice although we did manage to get into a box next to the main commentary at Silverstone when the gate was left open.

We must have been asked yesterday about 3 or 4 times when spectating from the wing wether we were there for the Single Seater Experience.NO.
The BRDC stand in the paddock was open and does give good views if only over a pretty short stretch of the track.
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Old 19 May 2019, 17:32 (Ref:3904683)   #35
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The BRDC stand in the paddock was open and does give good views if only over a pretty short stretch of the track.
Yes the BRDC stands is alright but in the wet its not great. From where I spent most of the day on the Wing Building you can see from Stowe to Abbey. Plus the commentary is quite loud also so you can keep tabs with what's happening.
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Old 19 May 2019, 19:11 (Ref:3904700)   #36
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Gutted i couldn't make this one this year, the joys over weekend work overtime . Hopefully there will be plenty good pics n vids appear over next few days. As for the spectating at Silverstone, I was at the Blancpain GT the week before and the place was empty, no atmosphere at all. As Brands said it works for the Classic but everything else just feels lost in there.
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Echo that sentiment, Bridge and Abbey used to be really good spectating but the place now is dull, universally grey with acres of gravel run off everywhere and as a spectator you are so far removed from the action. I'm off to Cadwell for the HSCC in a few weeks for some real race entertainment.

Good man - I was at Silverstone (for the 48th year running ) for CSCC a couple of weeks ago and even the big grids and excellent racing don't make up for what is now a hugely uninspiring circuit .Still , at least I am old enough to recall watching Peterson's Lotus 72 around the original Woodcote.



I will be at both days of HSCC Cadwell as there is little better in any branch of motorsport than watching a big field of FF1600s at Cadwell on a summer day . No prizes for guessing my favourite corner at my favourite circuit
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Do they still run Interserie cars in Germany? I have a recollection of them running early F3000 cars with Can-Am style full bodies?
Talking of F3000, isnt it about time someone ran a Historic F3000 series - must be lots about and 3 different eras inc the 2 x single make Lolas.
There were a few F3000 with Can-Am bodies mainly late 80s cars. Historic F3000 has two problems;

The cars although cheap to buy ie a roller for 15k but the engines are still hugely expensive. Start up costs you could get a car on the grid for 60k-75k much cheaper than Historic F1 but the running costs would be very similar.

I don't think there's enough interest or racers with the money to run a standalone series. The other issue is they wouldn't be welcome to join any other grid such as Masters F1 as a well driven 89-95 car would wipe the floor with the DFV era F1 cars.
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Thank you for the info. We drove to the Loop this morning without issue
Agree with what has been said above, this meeting was better on the old International circuit before they sold the remaining soul of the place for the MotoGP bikes.
It works on this layout for the Classic only because there are big screens to follow the action.

Still it's a nice sunny day atm
I got myself in trouble on Saturday driving over the hanger straight bridge then down to Stowe; the grump chap on the way back told me it was a private event down there. He'd cheered up today so I drove down to Stowe then back through the infield to village.

The meeting needs to be held on the National circuit as some of the thin fields combined with slow lap times produced lots of time staring at empty tarmac. However the meeting isn't really aimed at spectators more the competitors who are the one's paying for it. The paddock was friendly with some interesting cars I just feel Historic racing is at a tipping point now when the HSCC are getting thin grids.
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I will be at both days of HSCC Cadwell as there is little better in any branch of motorsport than watching a big field of FF1600s at Cadwell on a summer day . No prizes for guessing my favourite corner at my favourite circuit
I would hazard a guess at Charlies or the Gooseneck but there are so many good viewing spots, I love watching through Hall Bends. This June will be my forth visit for the Wolds event, absolutely beautiful setting.
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Love Hall Bends , but not to watch a race. Brilliant in qualifying, but not too much overtaking. But from my preferred sport I can see moves into Charlies, Mansfield and Mountain , as well as that other corner I like ...
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Was there with a few FISCAR cars, yesterday, but actually managed to see a few races for a change. Some pics from Race 8 - GTSCC 90 min enduro:-
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Was there with a few FISCAR cars, yesterday, but actually managed to see a few races for a change. Some pics from Race 8 - GTSCC 90 min enduro:-
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A few from Race 10, the new XL Aurora Trophy:-
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