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Old 11 Nov 2015, 20:38 (Ref:3589812)   #16
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I think the line "I was told I was like a father to Scott" I think is a dead give away that this beef is with someone else who was in-control of the company/payments.

What's annoying thou in all this is that everyone hold Ross Stone in such high regard and respect, but then he goes and airs his dirty laundry in public. I certainly don't have any respect for people who decide to use social media for such purposes. Does he think someone is going to cut a cheque magically now??

Let not forget at the same time, does the company Stone Brother company that they owe money to exist today, or did it get wound up after the sale to Erebus??
I gotta say I agree with this. I found this whole thing odd, a man of Ross' stature (and age) in pitlane reverts to any type of social media to talk about this is a bit off. Put it another way, how would we all be reacting if it was in one of Betty's 'Dear Creator' rambles?
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Old 11 Nov 2015, 23:20 (Ref:3589839)   #17
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Let not forget at the same time, does the company Stone Brother company that they owe money to exist today, or did it get wound up after the sale to Erebus??
Presuming the contract was with Stone Brothers Racing Pty Ltd, then yes. https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/Re...te=ckzrbq0x5_4
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 00:06 (Ref:3589841)   #18
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Must be trying to increase pressure on Scott
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 01:02 (Ref:3589850)   #19
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Starion13, Scott's Dad, Wayne, owners and directs the company. Its the same story with his New Zealand Entity which Owed/Owes money to V8 Supertourers 2013 Ltd (Now in Liquidation).

Also when you think about it, at the time Scott would have been too young to properly own and direct a company.
I understand he also owes a LOT of $$$ to the Aussie team than ran his SuperTourers outfit in 2012.

Sad really.
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 01:03 (Ref:3589851)   #20
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Must be trying to increase pressure on Scott
Very out of character to be honest...

Also, why do this now?? I don't remember such things after the whole SVG drama and even during it. The SBR camp kept rather quiet. And what happened to court proceedings there?? Why no rant??
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 03:20 (Ref:3589862)   #21
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Very out of character to be honest...

Also, why do this now?? I don't remember such things after the whole SVG drama and even during it. The SBR camp kept rather quiet. And what happened to court proceedings there?? Why no rant??
SBR were not involved in the SVG issue, they had sold the team by then

not sure he owed them money either
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 04:07 (Ref:3589864)   #22
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I gotta say I agree with this. I found this whole thing odd, a man of Ross' stature (and age) in pitlane reverts to any type of social media to talk about this is a bit off. Put it another way, how would we all be reacting if it was in one of Betty's 'Dear Creator' rambles?
But McLaughlin's supporters would be users of social media and the likely target of such messaging.
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 04:19 (Ref:3589865)   #23
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But McLaughlin's supporters would be users of social media and the likely target of such messaging.
But it is McLaughlin Snr who owes the $$, not McLaughlin Jnr, and as such supporters of McLaughlin Jnr who wouldn't know anything different may then take a different view of McLaughlin Jnr
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 04:35 (Ref:3589866)   #24
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But it is McLaughlin Snr who owes the $$, not McLaughlin Jnr, and as such supporters of McLaughlin Jnr who wouldn't know anything different may then take a different view of McLaughlin Jnr
This is semantics though, providing what is being said is true, Scott should make it right.
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I understand he also owes a LOT of $$$ to the Aussie team than ran his SuperTourers outfit in 2012.

Sad really.
Melbourne Performance Centre.

Going public is usually a last-ditch effort. Hope it gets resolved.
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 09:14 (Ref:3589899)   #26
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Whilst going public is out of general character for Mr Stone, I imagine it was written/done in a heat of the moment scenario and a general level of being "pi$$ed off" was evident. Who hasn't been in that situation once or twice.

The whole saga and unearthing of big $$ owed to parties who have helped pave Scott's journey taints his accomplishments and overall "good young kid" persona. Sad that the father is the one holding the dollars back and Scott being labelled for the deed. The pair of them need to grow a set and face up to those out of pocket and set things right, if just to limit the damage done to the following generation of Kiwi drivers coming across trying to get established. They will be tainted by McLaughlin Snr's antics and find it very difficult to cut a deal for a drive. Better come with folding at the ready.
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Old 12 Nov 2015, 21:03 (Ref:3590007)   #27
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The whole saga and unearthing of big $$ owed to parties who have helped pave Scott's journey taints his accomplishments and overall "good young kid" persona. Sad that the father is the one holding the dollars back and Scott being labelled for the deed. The pair of them need to grow a set and face up to those out of pocket and set things right, if just to limit the damage done to the following generation of Kiwi drivers coming across trying to get established. They will be tainted by McLaughlin Snr's antics and find it very difficult to cut a deal for a drive. Better come with folding at the ready.
We don't know it's big $$$, for all we know it could be $150 or $1500.

I wouldn't point the finger at Senior just yet, as I think back then Scott was managed possibly by Chris Jewell (??) as he wasn't he part of some Fujitsu sponsored development program?? Someone would have guided him accordingly into this direction.

If after 3 years of going to court, and suddenly the company is placed in liquidation, something doesn't smell right. Has it just been dragged out by solicitors, or does the agreement they had in place have some holes in it. I know the wheels can turn slowly in parts of business, but this doesn't stack up.
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We don't know it's big $$$, for all we know it could be $150 or $1500.

I wouldn't point the finger at Senior just yet, as I think back then Scott was managed possibly by Chris Jewell (??) as he wasn't he part of some Fujitsu sponsored development program?? Someone would have guided him accordingly into this direction.

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, and suddenly the company is placed in liquidation, something doesn't smell right. Has it just been dragged out by solicitors, or does the agreement they had in place have some holes in it. I know the wheels can turn slowly in parts of business, but this doesn't stack up.
Neither does the bolded parts
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Old 13 Nov 2015, 07:07 (Ref:3590095)   #29
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Reality check.... No one other than a complete idiot spends 3 years in court and maintaining lawyers for $1500. I have to use lawyers constantly in my line of employment and we don't go near them when owed sub $50K. Have personally dealt with various cases spanning 2+ years and they were for $500K. It will be a min 6 figure amount. What would a season in the development series cost? Not trying to turn this into a ****ing contest, just pointing out some commercial realities. Ross is owed heaps.

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