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Old 28 Aug 2019, 00:22 (Ref:3924433)   #31
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So the calendar is now official - no PI & no QR. QR removal something of a surprise as the Qld Govt has always linked the QR event with its support of the GC600 and Townsville. Clearly that view has changed.

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Old 28 Aug 2019, 01:37 (Ref:3924437)   #32
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More 200km races / longer races = good.

More fuel drop races = bad. A rule than directly engineers poor on track racing. It needs to go, badly.
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Old 28 Aug 2019, 07:18 (Ref:3924453)   #33
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I know it's not overly popular, and hasn't produced overly spectacular racing, but anytime a track as good as Phillip Island isn't being used, when some others are, seems wasteful IMHO.
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Old 28 Aug 2019, 09:01 (Ref:3924469)   #34
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Phillip Island & Winton Out?

Low attendance at each venue... but then that would knock out Eastern Creek too if they were serious

Losing rounds at permanent tracks will cause apoplexy for a few people....
Shades of days past, & direct from the Cochrane play book .... fewer races than venues .....
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Old 28 Aug 2019, 09:07 (Ref:3924470)   #35
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Didn't take long for the local business community in Surfers to come out with strong objections to this idea:



The Vodafone Gold Coast 600 could be revamped by holding racing under lights on the glitter strip for the first time.


The supposed payback to business in the glitter-strip is the extra spending on food, entertainment etc in the Surfers/Main beach area by the race crowd after the event. If they are still going to be at the track they won't be spending.


And does the night schedule decrease the family friendly nature of the event that VSCA has been pushing in recent years?
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Old 28 Aug 2019, 21:05 (Ref:3924552)   #36
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Shades of days past, & direct from the Cochrane play book .... fewer races than venues .....
it is all about Supercars digging into the taxpayers back pocket to pay for their dream
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Old 28 Aug 2019, 21:07 (Ref:3924553)   #37
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Interestingly over the years the track owners/managers that have not tolerated (V8)Supercars **** are:
* Phillip Island (Lindsay Fox)
* Queensland Raceway (John Tetley)
and if it happens
* Winton Motor Raceway (the only event/track that still 'promotes' their own event)

See the pattern here - some could call it bullying, some could call it financial survival, some could call it greed, but rest assured it has NOTHING to do with you and I (the fans)
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 01:09 (Ref:3924572)   #38
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mmmmm Interesting. The date for the 2020 Townsville 400 has the Friday of the event the same as the last day of the School Term. I think the students at the Townsville State High School may get some additional holidays.
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 03:19 (Ref:3924583)   #39
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I know it's not overly popular, and hasn't produced overly spectacular racing, but anytime a track as good as Phillip Island isn't being used, when some others are, seems wasteful IMHO.
It’s pretty popular with the drivers isn’t it?
It’s always referred to as a” true driver’s circuit ”
Shame to see one of Austalia’s best circuits lose the#1 category
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 12:14 (Ref:3924638)   #40
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More 200km races / longer races = good.

More fuel drop races = bad. A rule than directly engineers poor on track racing. It needs to go, badly.
If there is no Altima on the grid in 2020, will the fuel drop rule be removed?

Gold Coast under lights... jumping the shark?
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It’s pretty popular with the drivers isn’t it?
It’s always referred to as a” true driver’s circuit ”
Shame to see one of Austalia’s best circuits lose the#1 category
this is all about the relationship between Supercars and the Fox Family

and the lack of income to Supercars because punters just don't go there anymore

To summarise:
* Lot of outgoing (rent to Foxes)
* Lack of income (money from punters and merchandise sellers)
* equals a loss to Supercars



and just to clarify - it is OK for Winton to run at a loss running a Supercars event but it is not OK for Supercars to run at a loss running at PI - ****ing hypocrites
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NO footy in Melbourne on one weekend

No AFL footy in Melbourne this weekend & it was free of footy last year, will be next year.
I remember the big crowds at Sandown this time of year.

WHY oh WHY doesnt motorsport grab the free air this weekend - is anyone thinking out there in Supercar land?

Its hard to get free air in an AFL dominated landscape.
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Old 31 Aug 2019, 04:32 (Ref:3924926)   #43
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this is all about the relationship between Supercars and the Fox Family

and the lack of income to Supercars because punters just don't go there anymore

To summarise:
* Lot of outgoing (rent to Foxes)
* Lack of income (money from punters and merchandise sellers)
* equals a loss to Supercars



and just to clarify - it is OK for Winton to run at a loss running a Supercars event but it is not OK for Supercars to run at a loss running at PI - ****ing hypocrites
The Fox family are running a business.
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it is all about Supercars digging into the taxpayers back pocket to pay for their dream
aka Coch0s play book & it works, its not about favourites, personal relationships, not even the fans, its the bottom line cos losing money is a sure fire fail.
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Old 31 Aug 2019, 09:01 (Ref:3924937)   #45
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The Fox family are running a business.
never disputed that - in fact that was my point. I am not sure what your point is though



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aka Coch0s play book & it works, its not about favourites, personal relationships, not even the fans, its the bottom line cos losing money is a sure fire fail.
exactly, so why are they making such dumb decisions around their business?
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