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Old 5 Jun 2019, 00:18 (Ref:3907973)   #16
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Probably, I don't think we can honestly expect it to be 100% authentic....
I remember the on track action for Rush was faithfully recreated wasn't it? Can't compare that to anything else since all the other racing movies are fiction except for 3 but I haven't seen that one.
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Old 5 Jun 2019, 01:01 (Ref:3907976)   #17
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Rush had quite a bit of artistic licence. Including pre 76 racing footage. A decent film, which conveyed some of the character of the real people. I still haven’t worked out how I feel about it. When the real life was such an amazing story does it have to have poetic licence. But entertaining it was.

Although on the realism I remember a comment from a guy in MI5 on the radio talking the Enigma film. He confirm it got two things absolutely spot on. The main character was called Alan Turing and there was definitely a Second World War.
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Old 5 Jun 2019, 03:09 (Ref:3907986)   #18
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When the real deals are true characters like Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles, it's gonna be hard to match that. Lee Iaocca and HF2 for that matter...Enzo, too but who cares about him?!

HOWEVER, I wasn't alive during this time and have always loved the actual story. How Hollywoodfied it ends up being is what will be the tipping point.

Rush was well done to me, with those little things like me saying "that's not Suzuka, that's Brands Hatch!" Same with Days of Thunder. That's Rockingham, not Daytona!! One is a movie based on true events and the other is loosely based on real people but the inner workings of true stories into film will always be a chore.

Brühl and Hemsworth were good in Rush and I find Damon and Bale enjoyable, so the acting won't be an issue. Odd Damon is Shelby, tho....

Anyway, I'm generally excited with cautious optimism. This is what I want people to make movies about. I've got two comic book kids and I'm sooooo over Marvel / DC movies (some are decent), so we'll be there, just not when it opens. That's older son's birthday so I'll have to watch another comic book film...

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Old 5 Jun 2019, 03:11 (Ref:3907987)   #19
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But entertaining it was.
And in the end, that's what movies are supposed to do. Entertain. Hold my attention for 90 plus, move me a little and maybe make me laugh. Job done.
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Why do i have a bad feeling they are going to re write the 66 race result....
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Rush had quite a bit of artistic licence. Including pre 76 racing footage. A decent film, which conveyed some of the character of the real people. I still haven’t worked out how I feel about it. When the real life was such an amazing story does it have to have poetic licence. But entertaining it was.
I found this on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suPUexnTOcA

Which I'm seeing more inaccuracies now, I remember being very impressed that the Lauda crash recreation was basically 1 to 1.

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Although on the realism I remember a comment from a guy in MI5 on the radio talking the Enigma film. He confirm it got two things absolutely spot on. The main character was called Alan Turing and there was definitely a Second World War.
Enigma was completely fictional though, that comment would be said better for The Imitation Game which was like 80% made up versus what Niki said that Rush was "80% accurate."

Guess we'll see how it pans out.

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And in the end, that's what movies are supposed to do. Entertain. Hold my attention for 90 plus, move me a little and maybe make me laugh. Job done.

A film is meant to entertain yes, but I'm less entertained when historical stuff seems to not do their due diligence but every historical or biopic film is different so case by case basis. If you look at the credits you'll see that every historical film has a department of historical consultants so complaining about accuracy in historical film is like complaining about bad make up or special effects or bad costume. If a department slacks I think it's valid to complain about it.

Regardless tho, I'm not going to say the movie sucks just because they crashed the wrong car. That'd be silly. But if they change the '66 result that would probably be a deal breaker for me.

Of course, I'm going to go in trying to enjoy the movie and not have a checklist. But I watch a lot of classic racing, so I'll see how much I notice and how much that'll break my immersion. Hopefully it's faithfully recreated, I always get a kick when I can see stuff fully recreated from historical events, it makes me feel like I'm actually experiencing something real all that much more that I can't really get with completely fictional stories.
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I enjoyed Rush very much, in fact, so much so that when I was accompanying my wife shopping for clothes at the weekend, they had a 'bargain' stand of DVDs and Rush was there for £4.99 and as I never bought a copy I couldn't resist it. I'll watch it again sometime soon.



I agree with FoD on this one. I want to be entertained. Yes, as motorsport enthusiasts we can pick holes over the cars used in Grand Prix or the 'love interest' in Le Mans and I'm sure there will be things that grate a little in Ford v Ferrari, however the initial evidence is that it could be pretty good. Good enough for me to want to go see it, anyway.....
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And in the end, if historical incorrectness is found to not be enjoyable or ruins the overall entertainment to some, then so be it. It's art and is allowed to be debated upon.
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Who cares, if it is entertaining then people will watch it and if some of those then gain an interest in sportscar racing then that is good. Also i like to watch a good film with a good story.
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The thing about Rush is while they did get some things wrong, they got others so right. Obviously Lauda’s crash was very well edited to look like the original. Also they managed to include the bit about Mass being the only driver to start on slicks
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Because of the title I assumed it would also be about Ferrari.
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yes but just like F1 at the moment they get badly beaten
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When the real deals are true characters like Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles, it's gonna be hard to match that. Lee Iaocca and HF2 for that matter...Enzo, too but who cares about him?!

HOWEVER, I wasn't alive during this time and have always loved the actual story. How Hollywoodfied it ends up being is what will be the tipping point.

Rush was well done to me, with those little things like me saying "that's not Suzuka, that's Brands Hatch!" Same with Days of Thunder. That's Rockingham, not Daytona!! One is a movie based on true events and the other is loosely based on real people but the inner workings of true stories into film will always be a chore.

Brühl and Hemsworth were good in Rush and I find Damon and Bale enjoyable, so the acting won't be an issue. Odd Damon is Shelby, tho....

Anyway, I'm generally excited with cautious optimism. This is what I want people to make movies about. I've got two comic book kids and I'm sooooo over Marvel / DC movies (some are decent), so we'll be there, just not when it opens. That's older son's birthday so I'll have to watch another comic book film...
Marvel Cinematic movies are fantastic. Yes there are some downers even in there. Iron Man 3 and Captain Marvel were duds. Black Panther is very overrated. Must add that Star Wars The Last Jedi is also well documented as being a horrible horrible film. As a racing fan its a shame to say I have not seen "Rush" yet. I have had the misfortune of having seen "Driven", but at least the music in that movie is cool. Glad to see sportscars get some love. Would be awesome in the "Ford vs Ferrari" movie if there is an epilogue near the end that features the 2016 Le Mans battle between the 2 makes.
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Marvel Cinematic movies are fantastic. Yes there are some downers even in there. Iron Man 3 and Captain Marvel were duds. Black Panther is very overrated. Must add that Star Wars The Last Jedi is also well documented as being a horrible horrible film. As a racing fan its a shame to say I have not seen "Rush" yet. I have had the misfortune of having seen "Driven", but at least the music in that movie is cool. Glad to see sportscars get some love. Would be awesome in the "Ford vs Ferrari" movie if there is an epilogue near the end that features the 2016 Le Mans battle between the 2 makes.
Well, if you're not a comic book person, like me, they're a tough sell and there's complete oversaturation of them, ATM. I love films and really enjoyed 3 or 4 comic films but there's been 20 Marvel films alone the last 15 years with more coming. My wife hates baseball but loves Bull Durham. How many great baseball movies are there in all of history?

And the Black Panther was the last straw for me. I thought it was horrendous and everyone loved it. The plot was dull and like most of the other comic book films, it was all visuals and could have been wrapped up in 90 mins or less.

That's just my opinion and why I'm not a millionaire movie producer.
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I have followed this project for some time and I was a bit disappointed by the trailer. The trailer is probably deceiving on purpose (i.e. including more action even if the film might not have that much action), but I think it is still revealing the style of the movie. And I was hoping for a less flamboyant, more toned down and more serious style.

Altough the movie will probably leave British involvement out of the story (Lola Cars etc), I don't care about small historical inaccuracies, in the same way that I don't care if a World War II movie has wrong kind of museum tanks if the combat scenes are still believably re-created. Unfortunately in this case they might have the correct cars, but the racing scenes look more like Pixar movies and less like old racing film reels emphasized by that flying Ferrari? 100 feet in the air.

Based on the trailer the 1966 race itself is not going to be a huge part of the movie. Hopefully it doesn't simplify the racing part too much.

ps. That Le Mans recreation in the trailer looks a bit like Road Atlanta with CGI scenery. Not bad considering you can immediately tell which sections of the Le Mans they're supposed to resemble. Other circuits that can be recognized are Auto Club, Willow Springs and Fontana as Daytona.

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