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Old 2 Sep 2019, 05:35 (Ref:3925331)   #1
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Mercedes' 2019 DTM Withdrawal

I watched a few rounds of the DTM this afternoon & I was surprised to see there were no Mercedes on the grid.

Paul Di Resta now pilots an Aston Martin prepared by R-Motorsports.

I read an article that said Mercedes decided not to return to the series to dedicate its resources to Formula E.

I found this odd as Mercedes has completed in the DTM since the inception of tbe series fielding works cars & privateers purchased ex-works cars & competed.

Why abandon a series which you've been an integral part of?
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 06:13 (Ref:3925332)   #2
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I watched a few rounds of the DTM this afternoon & I was surprised to see there were no Mercedes on the grid.

Paul Di Resta now pilots an Aston Martin prepared by R-Motorsports.

I read an article that said Mercedes decided not to return to the series to dedicate its resources to Formula E.

I found this odd as Mercedes has completed in the DTM since the inception of tbe series fielding works cars & privateers purchased ex-works cars & competed.

Why abandon a series which you've been an integral part of?
Mainly because it was costing a fortune and for an ever diminishing marketing benefit.

In Mercedes' key markets (China, Japan, USA) DTM has no profile whatsoever.

You'll find a lot of manufacturers, like Audi and DS are only putting money into Formula E.
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 06:42 (Ref:3925337)   #3
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You'll find a lot of manufacturers, like Audi and DS are only putting money into Formula E.
The same Audi that has a works DTM team?
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 12:24 (Ref:3925391)   #4
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It's a good job we have 3 manufacturers still, it shows the series can survive
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 18:06 (Ref:3925450)   #5
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For how much longer? The costs of the cars are huge, and the audience, like WTCR in many respects, is pretty small.

I can see VAG pulling Audi out in the near future. Pushing the electric future is VAGs plan to rebuild and comeback bigger and stronger after dieselgate.
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Old 3 Sep 2019, 09:32 (Ref:3925543)   #6
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I think it was a mistake to downsize the engines from V8s to turbos fours in an era of electrification. Audi, BMW and Merc/R-Motorsport had to spend significant funds developing new engines, which then lead to one team (Audi) being dominant.

They could have kept the V8 for one more season and implemented a hybrid system from one supplier onto their existing engines for 2020. It would have been more market-relevant and potentially not as expensive.

Now their's talk of adding electrification to the sport at a later date. They will have had to make two transitions instead of just one.
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Old 3 Sep 2019, 11:15 (Ref:3925569)   #7
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For how much longer? The costs of the cars are huge, and the audience, like WTCR in many respects, is pretty small.
Iíve never seen WTCR have 100,000 + crowds like the core DTM races.
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Old 3 Sep 2019, 13:40 (Ref:3925595)   #8
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WTCR only really attracts big crowds at Macau. DTM has been getting good crowds for donkeys
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There’s a decent crowd in Macau, but not for the WTCR. They’re there for the F3 and the bikes. A lot also watch the GTs.
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Mind that Mercedes is present in Formula 1, and winning a lot.
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