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Old 3 May 2018, 07:24 (Ref:3819028)   #1
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:13 (Ref:3819038)   #2
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Good times!

Still trying to work out how we have 10 spend-what-you-like LMP1s but 8 cost capped LMP2s, but I'm very happy about it.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:27 (Ref:3819041)   #3
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Because Cost Capping never works
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Cost caps are Devil's work.

Anyway Dragonspeed is angry and fuming because of ACO's new artificial stint limitation
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/l...length-limits/
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Old 3 May 2018, 10:37 (Ref:3819063)   #5
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Cost caps are Devil's work.

Anyway Dragonspeed is angry and fuming because of ACO's new artificial stint limitation
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/l...length-limits/
And rightly so. FIA/ACO make a big fuss about fan surveys and all the rest then just make up artificial rubbish like this. With increasing performance equalisation, being able to make a difference through strategy and tactics can set you apart and costs nothing. Do they actually want a race?
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And rightly so. FIA/ACO make a big fuss about fan surveys and all the rest then just make up artificial rubbish like this. With increasing performance equalisation, being able to make a difference through strategy and tactics can set you apart and costs nothing. Do they actually want a race?
Technically ACO is already breaking their own rules by allowing Hedman to be there, so in that respect they shouldn't be overly moany about their driver situation, but yes I agree with what you say overall of course.

The only saving grace for the ACO is that regardless what they do, the hybrid and nonhybrids do have their own individual regulations that do not match, and are mot really even intended to match in performance (regulations do not say they need to). Then again if the separation is as wide as it seem Nonhybrid could just become LMP2, current LMP2 new LMP3, and current LMP3 new LMP4. But obviously hybrid-only P1 with 2 cars isn't too good looking on paper...
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Old 3 May 2018, 10:46 (Ref:3819065)   #7
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And rightly so. FIA/ACO make a big fuss about fan surveys and all the rest then just make up artificial rubbish like this. With increasing performance equalisation, being able to make a difference through strategy and tactics can set you apart and costs nothing. Do they actually want a race?
Only if Alonso/Toyota win.

Surprised that the 'OTHER' Toyota hasn't been shackled by something or other!
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Old 3 May 2018, 10:59 (Ref:3819068)   #8
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For the moment non-hybrids are looking quite good and close.
Alonso fastest.
But not Ginetta... they didn't set a lap yet.

And Maldonado - amazing... this Oreca LMP2 is fast, no wonder that in LMP1 version it is good out of the box.
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Old 3 May 2018, 11:16 (Ref:3819069)   #9
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Look at BMW and Aston Martin. Please ACO, please don't capitulate to their whinging. Please.
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Old 3 May 2018, 11:27 (Ref:3819071)   #10
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Cost caps are Devil's work.

Anyway Dragonspeed is angry and fuming because of ACO's new artificial stint limitation
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/l...length-limits/
Am I understanding this correctly? The ACO says, here is how much energy you get per lap, oh but by the way, only go 17 laps on that fuel? How far could teams have gone I wonder?

I like Dragonspeeds response:

“We’re spending a fortune on engines for using a fuel flow sensor. We’re spending triple the money than the P2 engine to run lean, to then save fuel. It’s pretty stupid.”
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Old 3 May 2018, 11:30 (Ref:3819072)   #11
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Im a bit confused did they set a limit on the number of laps or just adjust the tank capacity?
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In terms of stint length, in any case, the maximum number of ‘green’ laps (without safety car, slow zone(s) and not
depending on track conditions) should not exceed 11 laps for LMP1H and 10 laps for LMP1NH in Le Mans 2018 race and
19 laps for LMP1H and 17 laps for LMP1NH in Spa 2018 race.
Is this a hard cap or guideline for future EoT?

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I wonder what the story is with Manor?

https://twitter.com/The__Advantage/s...308711424?s=19

Track running costs money...
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We need to stop calling it EoT now. It was an EoT. But when you're setting artificial stint lengths it's no longer EoT and is purely BoP now.

LMP1 is a BoP class now.
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Im a bit confused did they set a limit on the number of laps or just adjust the tank capacity?
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In terms of stint length, in any case, the maximum number of ‘green’ laps (without safety car, slow zone(s) and not
depending on track conditions) should not exceed 11 laps for LMP1H and 10 laps for LMP1NH in Le Mans 2018 race and
19 laps for LMP1H and 17 laps for LMP1NH in Spa 2018 race.


Is this a hard cap or guideline for future EoT?
This is disgusting.
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Old 3 May 2018, 11:42 (Ref:3819079)   #15
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And the best sector 2 goes to... BR1. (in HD i guess).
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Just an observation, comparing Practice 1 times to last years Q times;

GTE-AM, 2 seconds quicker than last year Pole, 2.16.6 compared to last years Pole of 2.18.6. GTE-Pro, 0.003 quicker than last years Pole, LMP2, 0.8 sec slower than last years Pole, Toyota, nearly 4 seconds slower than they qualified last year, but still 1-2 in the timing sheets. That's a fair bit of sand.
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Old 3 May 2018, 12:36 (Ref:3819086)   #17
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There was always big improvement in every practice session for LMP1H in last couple of seasons. So I think come qualifying they will get there.
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Just an observation, comparing Practice 1 times to last years Q times[...]Toyota, nearly 4 seconds slower than they qualified last year, but still 1-2 in the timing sheets. That's a fair bit of sand.
Apples and oranges. Compare FP1 2017 to FP1 2018 though, there's less than half a second in it (1:57.940 vs 1:58.392).
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OK, so the P1s improve much more between Practice & Qualy, whereas GTE's straight up to speed. I didn't realise that, so stand corrected on the sand comment ( for now ... ).
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Are Manor really short of money? Why doesn't Ginetta or even Tomlinson himself contribute anything? They'll likely never get a better chance to win Le Mans.
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Manor is this a joke or something?
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We need to stop calling it EoT now. It was an EoT. But when you're setting artificial stint lengths it's no longer EoT and is purely BoP now.

LMP1 is a BoP class now.

I say it always has been. The way it was implemented, EoT was just a fancy name for BoP
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According to Racer, Léo Roussel isn't in Spa at all so the #5 Ginetta is down to two drivers. No reasons given for the lack of track activity or Roussel's absence. I wonder did Roussel decide to get off the ship before it sank?
http://racer.com/2018/05/03/alonso-l...ession-at-spa/
This situation is bizarre.
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According to Racer, Léo Roussel isn't in Spa at all so the #5 Ginetta is down to two drivers. No reasons given for the lack of track activity or Roussel's absence. I wonder did Roussel decide to get off the ship before it sank?
http://racer.com/2018/05/03/alonso-l...ession-at-spa/
This situation is bizarre.
Unfortunately looks like yet another motorsport case of all flash no cash, a real shame as the cars look good
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"According to information from 'Motorsport-Total.com' the Le Mans organizer ACO has already taken the first measures. The KCMG team was told to get ready for a start at the 24-hour race in June. The former WEC team has named a Dallara-Gibson with paydriver Louis Prette under the title "APM Monaco Team KCMG" and is currently in first place on the reserve list."
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