Official Turkish Grand Prix 2020: Grand Prix Weekend - Round 14 of 17 - Page 9

chillibowl · 17 Nov 2020, 14:28 (Ref:4017459)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Looking forward to the next Max Wet Weather Masterclass. This one was a treat.

Im actually really looking forward to seeing that.

Maybe he finds his touch again maybe he doesnt. He had it in brazil a few years back so where did it go? What happened to him this weekend?

Skill and emotion in highly charged situations. A teenager becoming a man. Will that man be the same as his father or can he be more?

Does it get more existential then a race car driver fighting some unseen foe from the cockpit of a rain soaked car?

We all have our own reasons to watch though.

Knowlesy · 17 Nov 2020, 16:05 (Ref:4017471)

I think Max is excellent in the wet (hardly controversial) and is possiby catching a bit much flack in here, but the Brazil 2016 drive has to be one of the most bizarrely worshipped things I have ever seen. It wasn't even close to being the best drive of that day but seems to be held up as Donington 1993 mixed with Barcelona 1996 and seasoned with a sprinkling of Silverstone 2008. I don't get it.

chillibowl · 17 Nov 2020, 16:22 (Ref:4017472)

yeah memories can be funny like that.

his age, first year with RB so at the time it seemed like a sign of things to come, got more praise then it should have, and the 'legend' grew from there?

that said, he made up a lot of places at the end to get that podium so it was special if not legendary.

**Adam43** · 17 Nov 2020, 16:44 (Ref:4017474)

I would guess that next time it rains Max will do well

On the topic of this thread he had an off weekend. Overall you wouldn’t bet against him.

The Fat Clerk · 17 Nov 2020, 16:59 (Ref:4017477)

Is that rain from the skies or tears from his eyes?

Time to 'man up' Max.

**Aysedasi** · 17 Nov 2020, 17:03 (Ref:4017479)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I would guess that next time it rains Max will do well

On the topic of this thread he had an off weekend. Overall you wouldn’t bet against him.

Yep, I'd go with that.....

steve nielsen · 17 Nov 2020, 17:34 (Ref:4017486)

There seems to have been a setup error with the left side of the front wing beeing lower than the right side on Max his car

https://www.formule1.nl/nieuws/inzoo...-te-zien/#!jig[1]/ML/239049

S griffin · 17 Nov 2020, 17:36 (Ref:4017489)

Wonder what made them make that mistake? I guess they just forgot to check everything

steve nielsen · 17 Nov 2020, 17:42 (Ref:4017491)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Wonder what made them make that mistake? I guess they just forgot to check everything

according to Marko the new wing they brought has the thread on the adjustment going the other way.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/72859...ront-wing.html

**Adam43** · 17 Nov 2020, 17:43 (Ref:4017494)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Those pesky wing adjustments.

Quite.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 17 Nov 2020, 17:44 (Ref:4017495)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

according to Marko the new wing they brought has the thread on the adjustment going the other way.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/72859...ront-wing.html

Of course.

Anyopenroad · 17 Nov 2020, 17:45 (Ref:4017497)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

according to Marko the new wing they brought has the thread on the adjustment going the other way.

And we wonder why these teams can't beat Mercedes...

Akrapovic · 17 Nov 2020, 17:49 (Ref:4017499)

Did the front wing ruin his start?

Greem · 17 Nov 2020, 18:08 (Ref:4017503)

Not necessarily. But if the left-hand thread rumours are to be believed, it screwed his race.

I'm here all week

Taxi645 · 17 Nov 2020, 18:30 (Ref:4017509)

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Originally Posted by Greem

Not necessarily. But if the left-hand thread rumours are to be believed, it screwed his race.

I'm here all week

:P

**bjohnsonsmith** · 17 Nov 2020, 18:33 (Ref:4017511)

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Originally Posted by Greem

Not necessarily. But if the left-hand thread rumours are to be believed, it screwed his race.

I'm here all week

**Aysedasi** · 17 Nov 2020, 18:53 (Ref:4017516)

And they didn't notice that through a GP weekend? Or they didn't tell the mechanics adjusting the wings?

RWill2073 · 17 Nov 2020, 20:09 (Ref:4017535)

Just want to point out, that after the first finish outside of a podium all year, a disaster if a race that still left him 6th and ahead of his teammate, a drive that in a championship car, if his worst day without mechanical issues is a 6th, it is very much a championship caliber driver, there has been multiple pages of how immature and childish the 23 year old verstappen is.

Meanwhile, hamilton is lauded, and verstappen is being compared negatively to him when it comes to maturity. But...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...tory-amp.shtml

This is from 2016. Well into Hamilton's 30s. So, maybe if max is still like this at 32 or so, he hasn't figured it out like hamilton supposedly has.

Oh, except Hamilton "figured it out" as soon as he was in the dominant car without a teammate that could beat him... hmm....

RWill2073 · 17 Nov 2020, 20:12 (Ref:4017536)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

And they didn't notice that through a GP weekend? Or they didn't tell the mechanics adjusting the wings?

Don't they adjust them in a pitstop with a gun? Probably habit that had them put the gun on the setting to turn it the old way, and in the 2 seconds they had to make the adjustment, had no time to realize they were turning it wrong way until it was too late.

But, that is stuff that mercedes would have had right, which is the difference between them and everybody else. Thank god it wasn't ferrari, or they would have unscrewed the whole wing off the car!

RWill2073 · 17 Nov 2020, 20:48 (Ref:4017538)

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Originally Posted by gert

Earlier in his carreer, of course. Not just today.

Lewis grew up after being around for a few years. Max is taking a bit longer to get to that stage.

Did he though?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...tory-amp.shtml

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

absolute nonsense , I've seen Lewis angry and beeing angry over the radio as late as the last 2 years.

This year not that much, but he has very little to be upset about so far.

Yep. Hamilton matured magically after he had the best car and no teammate that could beat him.

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Originally Posted by chillibowl

yeah memories can be funny like that.

his age, first year with RB so at the time it seemed like a sign of things to come, got more praise then it should have, and the 'legend' grew from there?

that said, he made up a lot of places at the end to get that podium so it was special if not legendary.

Yeah, memoriez can be funny like that. Like people in this thread not remembering Hamilton's childishness well into his 30s.

E.B · 17 Nov 2020, 20:51 (Ref:4017539)

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Originally Posted by Greem

Not necessarily. But if the left-hand thread rumours are to be believed, it screwed his race.

I'm here all week

I must be in the wrong thread here....

**Adam43** · 17 Nov 2020, 20:59 (Ref:4017541)

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Originally Posted by RWill2073

Just want to point out, that after the first finish outside of a podium all year, a disaster if a race that still left him 6th and ahead of his teammate, a drive that in a championship car, if his worst day without mechanical issues is a 6th, it is very much a championship caliber driver, there has been multiple pages of how immature and childish the 23 year old verstappen is.

Meanwhile, hamilton is lauded, and verstappen is being compared negatively to him when it comes to maturity. But...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...tory-amp.shtml

This is from 2016. Well into Hamilton's 30s. So, maybe if max is still like this at 32 or so, he hasn't figured it out like hamilton supposedly has.

Oh, except Hamilton "figured it out" as soon as he was in the dominant car without a teammate that could beat him... hmm....

This is the Turkey GP thread where Verstappen was pants and mardy and Hamilton was sublime and grateful.

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I think the point was that the previous actions of others aren’t an excuse. Poor show from all.

I agree that it would be nice for Max to grow up a bit and lose the bad attitude.

However, there aren’t many drivers I’d have in my team over him.

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yep, I'd go with that.....

**bjohnsonsmith** · 17 Nov 2020, 21:03 (Ref:4017542)

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Originally Posted by RWill2073

Don't they adjust them in a pitstop with a gun? Probably habit that had them put the gun on the setting to turn it the old way, and in the 2 seconds they had to make the adjustment, had no time to realize they were turning it wrong way until it was too late.

But, that is stuff that mercedes would have had right, which is the difference between them and everybody else. Thank god it wasn't ferrari, or they would have unscrewed the whole wing off the car!

If they only have 2 seconds, or how ever long the stop lasts, I think that's the stuff Mercedes wouldn't have changed because of exactly that, habit.

steve nielsen · 17 Nov 2020, 21:12 (Ref:4017543)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

And they didn't notice that through a GP weekend? Or they didn't tell the mechanics adjusting the wings?

look at the article I posted earlier, the pics are very clear with one side beeing much lower that the other

**Adam43** · 17 Nov 2020, 21:15 (Ref:4017545)

And they didn't notice that through a GP weekend!? Or they didn't tell the mechanics adjusting the wings?

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