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Old 4 May 2013, 12:45 (Ref:3242595)   #91
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You are right of course - but it doesn't help that WEC have turned away from 2 of the best attended sportscar races - Sebring and PLM
And both event are owned by USCR. Nevertheless, I think WEC needs is tradition, as in reviving lost events from decade's past.

Maybe they should revive the Mille Miglia, Targa Florio, and other events, but held in modern tracks like Imola, Monza, etc.
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Old 4 May 2013, 13:20 (Ref:3242614)   #92
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Terrible crowd today at Spa one of the worst I've seen for any professional series and sports car racing at the circuit despite excellent weather.
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Old 4 May 2013, 14:07 (Ref:3242656)   #93
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I wouldn't mind the GT cars being faster so there is more time during the lapped car process.
Put bigger restrictors in (lots of people don't get it why the 458 has 100hp less than the street car) and you basically get GT1 cars back. Wouldn't even really make the operating costs higher, would it?
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Old 4 May 2013, 14:51 (Ref:3242697)   #94
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Take away some of their ballast as well. They are pretty limited in aero on top of that.
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Old 4 May 2013, 15:04 (Ref:3242708)   #95
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But downforce gets higher and higher on GTE-cars, it's more than it was some years ago I'd say. Maybe not on old GT1-levels, but even the F430 GTC version did on some courses the same lateral g-forces than some GT1s in 2009 and 2010 ...

The benefit from that would just be that the existence of the GTE cars is just more justified compared to GT3 ones. And they'd be faster than GT3s aswell.
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Old 4 May 2013, 15:39 (Ref:3242725)   #96
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Maybe they should revive the Mille Miglia, Targa Florio, and other events, but held in modern tracks like Imola, Monza, etc.
Revive the Mille Miglia, Targa Florio on a track??? Errrggghhhh...

I guess the Tour de France should be on a velodrome...
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Put bigger restrictors in (lots of people don't get it why the 458 has 100hp less than the street car) and you basically get GT1 cars back. Wouldn't even really make the operating costs higher, would it?
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Take away some of their ballast as well. They are pretty limited in aero on top of that.
And then you have GT's beating the LMP2's down Mulsanne, and hardly any slower around the corners!
Adding speed to one group of cars is dangerous.
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Terrible crowd today at Spa one of the worst I've seen for any professional series and sports car racing at the circuit despite excellent weather.
Absolutely not my experience at all. Felt as busy as I've seen Spa for a sportscar race.

Stands at the start reasonably full, steady flow people whole way up to Les Combes, and genuine competition for places to sit by Pouhon.
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Absolutely not my experience at all. Felt as busy as I've seen Spa for a sportscar race.

Stands at the start reasonably full, steady flow people whole way up to Les Combes, and genuine competition for places to sit by Pouhon.
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Good to hear then. TV angles must have not shown the majority of spectators in GA areas.
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And then you have GT's beating the LMP2's down Mulsanne, and hardly any slower around the corners!
Adding speed to one group of cars is dangerous.
Why is that a bad thing? And what is dangerous when it used to be GT1 cars finished sometimes in the top 15 overall. The cars now are a shadow of themselves in almost every category.
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Why is that a bad thing? And what is dangerous when it used to be GT1 cars finished sometimes in the top 15 overall. The cars now are a shadow of themselves in almost every category.
The two performance increases that where suggested (increase of power and reduced weight) would make the top GTE's faster than GT1 cars, and at the same time LMP2's are slower than they where in the GT1 cars.

The dangerous part is when a LMP2 has to overtake a GTE car, but the only place where the LMP2 car is superior is through the corners. Therefor the LMP2 can be forced to make a risky overtake, which doesn't always end well.
The, by far, safest place to overtake a slower category is down a straight, therefor there needs to be a clear speed differens.
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With the increase in factory teams in GTE the development of those cars will be dramatic whilst LMP2 with limited resources will be slower, the regulations will try to control this but sports car racing usually gives in to the area's that push hardest and these will usually be the well backed factory teams.
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Terrible crowd today at Spa one of the worst I've seen for any professional series and sports car racing at the circuit despite excellent weather.
It was, better than ast year, i think. Unlike last year, people were everywhere, not just in the "chicane-to-eau-rouge" part of the track.
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It was, better than ast year, i think. Unlike last year, people were everywhere, not just in the "chicane-to-eau-rouge" part of the track.
Official number was 14.000.... that's pretty pityfull. ADAC GT got that much last weekend at Oschersleben.
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Old 5 May 2013, 11:29 (Ref:3243047)   #105
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Spa is an interesting circuit to spectate, but only if you like a good hike.
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