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Old 17 Oct 2005, 23:12 (Ref:1436579)   #1
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MTC organization launched the new F3000 K06 (+photos)

Yesterday at Vallelunga circuit

source: MTC organization ltd

During of the ETCC final event, MTC organization launched the new F3000 K06 that will take part in the "2006 F3000 International Masters".

Click on PHOTO ALBUM to see this very beautiful car
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Old 17 Oct 2005, 23:27 (Ref:1436589)   #2
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Old 17 Oct 2005, 23:49 (Ref:1436599)   #3
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MTC organization ltd.

I'm not sure who they are yet, but I add also posted this back in June:
http://f3000.flagworld.com/en/news/i...py?artid=42689
http://f3000.flagworld.com/en/news/i...py?artid=42958

So it look like it's a Lola partner, or linked to Lola
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 00:26 (Ref:1436618)   #4
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So is this car going to replace the pro series or the Renault V6?
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 00:32 (Ref:1436619)   #5
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Hard to tell hey, I guess it will replace....
http://w3.flagworld.com/en/news/inde...py?artid=50617
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 05:12 (Ref:1436687)   #6
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Another pointless series which should be killed off before it starts
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 11:01 (Ref:1436881)   #7
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A few months ago, someone proposed re-styling the Lola F3000 car for the European/ Italian F3000 series (or something similar) to give them a more modern and "sculpted" F1 type look.

I think that Lola responded by threatening to sue or at least state publicly that they had nothing to do with it and could not guarantee the integrity of the "new" car.

Is this the same deal?
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 14:54 (Ref:1437013)   #8
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 15:19 (Ref:1437031)   #9
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A few months ago, someone proposed re-styling the Lola F3000 car for the European/ Italian F3000 series (or something similar) to give them a more modern and "sculpted" F1 type look.

I think that Lola responded by threatening to sue or at least state publicly that they had nothing to do with it and could not guarantee the integrity of the "new" car.

Is this the same deal?
This car is the ex FiaF3000 Lola B99/50 car from 1999 to 2001 which was used in EuroF3000Superfund in 2004 end in F3000ProSeries of Peroni in 2005. It has been restyled using mechanical elements manufactured by ADM (the team that raced in F3000ProSeries with Siedler this year) and bodywork parts built by Bercella who is one of the Dallara and Tatuus carbonfibre parts supplier.
Ex Alfa Romeo manager Cladio Chierici (who is parttime sports director of Adm) has set up a company to sell the series and found a partner in Kso who
need to find a singleseater class to integrate into their Wttc Super Weekend.
Peroni wants to get rid of the old cars, because he wants to build an Italian Renault Weekend series using the Clios, the Tatuus Monza Formula Renault1600 singleseaters, the Formula Renault2000 and combine them with the old Tatuus FRV6 cars (which were destined to the PanamV6 series that did not take off).
Whether this series makes sense remains to be seen (the monocoques will be in their 8th season!) but it is all commercial and Wttc needs racing series to integrate into their racing weekend.
Some websites: www.f3000internationalmasters.com
www.bercella.it
www.superfundeuro3000.com/teamDetail.asp?Id=1
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 16:14 (Ref:1437094)   #10
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So the Peroni F3000 series is effectively splitting into two now?
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 16:19 (Ref:1437100)   #11
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And where does the "other" Italian 3000 series fit in?

This is madness!

The GP2<<World Series situation is all that's required for the "ladder" above F3, I believe.
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 16:46 (Ref:1437123)   #12
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And where does the "other" Italian 3000 series fit in?

This is madness!

The GP2<<World Series situation is all that's required for the "ladder" above F3, I believe.
It is mad but it is commercial reality and it is due to the national and international authorities being badly setup and reflecting too much the politics and not enough the sporting side of motor racing.

Anyway:
Peroni Renault Weekend 2006: FRV6-Fr2000-Fr1600-Clio. 7 double header races in total (6 in Italy and one at Spa)
F3000Italy (Coloni-Csai):F3000 Lola B02/50 modified as follows:Zytek electroactuated gearbox/clutch selection managment with paddle shift/clutch and lefthand foot braking. New frontwing endplate as in Champcar. New rearwing. 10races total (5 in Italy and 5 outside Italy). Old B99/50 can race
there as well with seperate classification.
F3000Masters: Restyled Lola B99/50 as oulined in my previous post integrated in the Wttc Eurosport Racing weekend (8races).

The side effect of the 2 F3000 series in Italy in 2005 is that the Italian F3 has between 6 and 8cars only and will probably die in 2006. Sad!
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 16:49 (Ref:1437127)   #13
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Why don't 2 of the three get together and merge
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 16:58 (Ref:1437136)   #14
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Well it would have worked if the two warring F3000 series had come to some sort of middle of the road 06 car. There's no need for two 3000 style series, and certainly no need to randomly have a V6 series. All things considered, I do think the mini Italian World Series is a good one, and they should just dump the 3000 classes entirely. If Peroni 3000 is now on the WTCC bill, where is Coloni 3000 doing their non-Italian weekends? DTM?
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Why don't 2 of the three get together and merge
Peroni and Coloni are at war. Coloni has links with Csai and Peroni is a big motorsports events promoter in Italy.Both think to have the better product and fight against each other. But Coloni has more and the better drivers and teams and will probably win this war in the end.
Peroni controls the Renault championships in Italy and the FRV6 cars being unused and cheap he tries to sell this idea to Renault Italy. I think it is only a project at this stage and Peroni wants to see how much interest it could generate.
F3000Masters is a desperate move of the teams having the obsolete B99/50 to create an arena to race with their machinery. I do not think it will take off.
And in the end the FRV6 might not be sold to Peroni (Palmer Racing School is interested in them as well) and the modified F3000Masters cars might end up again with Peroni.
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Old 18 Oct 2005, 17:06 (Ref:1437141)   #16
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So there's hope that we might not see three series - that's at least something.
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Well it would have worked if the two warring F3000 series had come to some sort of middle of the road 06 car. There's no need for two 3000 style series, and certainly no need to randomly have a V6 series. All things considered, I do think the mini Italian World Series is a good one, and they should just dump the 3000 classes entirely. If Peroni 3000 is now on the WTCC bill, where is Coloni 3000 doing their non-Italian weekends? DTM?
F3000 Masters is TRYING to go to Wttc. Peroni is linked to Renault Italy. Coloni did already 1race in Brno with Dtm in 2005.
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How ridiculous, I'd say there's room for one Italian championship, but a WTCC supporting series and two national series is just madness.

As an aside, interesting to see Christian Danner, the first FIA F3000 champion in 1985, is going to race for Sighinolfi in F3000 Italia in the final round at Misano. At least I think the article says he's going to race.
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Maybe to prep for the Masters series.
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One thing is for sure in all this meli-melo mumbo-jumbo...

....As long as there will be many championships, many championship owners will make money!!!
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Talking about this, my hats off to Sheikh Maktoum Hasher Maktoum Al Maktoum who had the best idea, do a championship in the winter!!!

While all other championship owners/organizers are busy doing plans and all driver$$$ want to keep busy and will spend the few buck$$ they have.




Sheikh Maktoum Hasher Maktoum Al Maktoum is my idol!!!
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Talking about this, my hats off to Sheikh Maktoum Hasher Maktoum Al Maktoum who had the best idea, do a championship in the winter!!!

While all other championship owners/organizers are busy doing plans and all driver$$$ want to keep busy and will spend the few buck$$ they have.




Sheikh Maktoum Hasher Maktoum Al Maktoum is my idol!!!
The great thing 'bout a1gp/maktoum is not the winter idea or the nations-cup idea but the fact he has the millions needed to start up a good serie.
Same goes for the renault ws-weekends. It shows that a well-promoted & funded serie can easily be a succes, although not necesarily a financial succes.
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Old 7 Dec 2005, 18:41 (Ref:1479094)   #23
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Italiaracing.net are reporting that Renault has vetoed the V6 Pro Series (the replacement to the 3000 Pro Series planned for 2006). Good news in my opinion, it would have been as unnecessary as having two F3000 series was this year.
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