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Old 6 Jul 2022, 13:51 (Ref:4118429)   #1
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Doctors to overhaul car wreck rescue techniques amid new evidence

Just thought this might be relevant to track rescue:


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Doctors to overhaul car wreck rescue techniques amid new evidence

There are plans for a major overhaul of how people are rescued from car wrecks amid growing evidence that current methods where people wait to be cut free may be harmful.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...d-new-evidence


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A Delphi study of rescue and clinical subject matter experts on the extrication of patients following a motor vehicle collision
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Just read that elsewhere. It will be interesting to see how quickly that moves into motorsport rescue. In my experience medics in motorsport tend to be quite quick to adopt new practices.

Time to change our extrication practice to 'how to quickly make a hole the casualty can get out of by himself' instead of 'slowly make a big hole we can take him out of'. Think our newest toy might become our best friend.

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To be fair, this feels more like 'on the road' crews catching up with motorsport. We have been encouraging drivers to self-extricate for a number of years and the research being quoted here was initially performed by the FIA in 2013 and then followed up in Dublin a few years after that.
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Surely the current road accident approach is mostly related to insurance niceties - either to avoid the risk of being accused of causing harm to the injured or potentially injured party or, perhaps as likely, to satisfy the injured party's need to make a personal injury claim, vindicated by the evidence that they had to be cut out of the vehicle.

I am reminded of a story related by a Scottish Traffic Policeman (or so claimed - there seemed to be enough corroborating information to suggest validity)

It involved a newly arrived, generously sized, American lady tourist and a Mondeo rental car with as many recorded miles as the lady's journey from the airport to the location of a minor bumper tapping accident. About 18 miles as I recall.

The story related the need to cut the roof off the Mondeo because the lady insisted she could not extricate herself. The Ambulance crew could not move her so the Fire service become involved.

Apparently, some 2 years later, the attending police officer remembered the incident and thought to check to see what had later transpired.

There was still an open file and the lady was claiming $58k US dollars (that would be about 30 years ago dollars) for modifications to the Kitchen at her home in NYC as a result of injuries supposedly suffered.

Presumably such considerations in respect of insurance arrangements are less common trackside?
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Presumably such considerations in respect of insurance arrangements are less common trackside?
Or, we are more progressive?

Maybe because we have a much smaller cohort of people to spread the message to and regular training that only has extrication as the theme?

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Maybe because we have a much smaller cohort of people to spread the message to and regular training that only has extrication as the theme?
Thankfully we don't have to do as many extrications as they do on the road.
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Like vehicle "relocation", these changes are very closely aligned to motorsport practice for a number of years.
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