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View Poll Results: Street circuits - do we need more??
Yeah Yeah Yeah!! 20 45.45%
Nope- we have enough at the moment 9 20.45%
No-way infact Monaco needs to go as well 6 13.64%
we need more tracks like Silverstone and Malaysia 9 20.45%
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 18:38 (Ref:825235)   #1
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Does F1 need more STREET circuits??

does F1 need more street races like Monaco and Canada?? ofcourse they have produced some great Gp's over the past few years but tracks like Malaysia give more chance for overtaking.
so simple enough question..
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 18:54 (Ref:825242)   #2
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Canada is an unusual street cirtuit. Most of the street circuits fall more into the category on Monaco. I dislike them.
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 18:56 (Ref:825244)   #3
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But tracks like Maylasia don't always offer more overtaking.
I must be one of the few F1 fans that hates the Sepang circuit.

I do think we could do with a few more street circuits.
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 19:16 (Ref:825252)   #4
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i don't think canada falls into the category of a street circuit and monaco remains on the calender because of its history, the fact that it is the showcase for sponsors, and that it is....well....monaco....i think that if f1 had any more street circuits, they should follow the australian example.....
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 19:21 (Ref:825253)   #5
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The Montreal race certainly isn't what comes to mind when one thinks of a street circuit. For all intensive purposes it's a typical road course.

F1 needs more tracks that are more condusive to F1 passing. Also, natural terrain road courses need to make a comeback.
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 19:24 (Ref:825256)   #6
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It would be nice to see more street circuits but not in the Monaco mould. I'm thinking of Adelaide type tracks.
And not too many either, otherwise they lose their unique tag.
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 19:39 (Ref:825264)   #7
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we need more tracks with challenging corners, and those are usualy not found on street tracks.
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Old 1 Jan 2004, 19:51 (Ref:825269)   #8
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Not need but I would like to see Montjuich Park or Pau on the calender. Dreaming, just dreaming....
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Depends on what is ment by a `street circuit'.

In cart for example it is very confusing. :confused:

Some people there regard any temp circuit as a street circuit (eg Cleveland - what is that circuit?) :confused:
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Can Australia have a 2nd round, and have the F1 take the ChampCar round date on the Surfer's Paradise circuit??

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I voted "Yeah Yeah Yeah!!". I think that it's always a good thing to have variety in the type of circuits which are raced on by a series, and I think F1 should try and showcase the very best of all kinds of circuits in equal measure. For me the street circuit races have a much greater sense of occasion about them, so for sure there should be more than just one temporary one (Monte Carlo) and two semi-permanent ones (Albert Park, Montreal). But it's essential to get the balance right with the circuit, you can have greats like Macau, but then ****ers like Miami. What about the following for F1 races, as all currently exist/have been proposed to a decent standard:

Bilbao, Spain
Cagliari, Italy
Changwon, South Korea
Guia, Macau
Long Beach, USA
Monte Carlo, Monaco
Pau, France
Surfers Paradise, Australia
Vienna, Austria
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Would love to see Adelaide back on the calender. But circuits like Monaco, no ta!
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If we were to see more street circuits, i would far prefer them to be added on to the current season, and not replace a normal circuit.

So if we had the option of having 16 races - like now --- Or having 16 races PLUS 4 more street circuits - then i would far prefer the latter.
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Re: Does F1 need more STREET circuits??

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does F1 need more street races like Monaco and Canada?? ofcourse they have produced some great Gp's over the past few years but tracks like Malaysia give more chance for overtaking.
so simple enough question..
Just to echo The Monster's thoughts, just how much overtaking have you seen at Sepang? (not including wet races, they don't count)
If you ever pop into Armchair Enthusiast, you'll see a thread with more than 4000 posts called "My Tracks". We frequently have this debate of how much overtaking these modern super tracks offer.
Race track design is more of an art than you might think. It's very difficult to engineer into a new track overtaking spots. I would argue it's nearly impossible to judge the correct corner combinations that will allow passing. A tight corner at the end of a long straight is not an answer. Look at Monza's first corner if you want proof of how inneficient this is.

So my thought would be that street tracks can add variety. They can also be mindless series of right angle bends.

I think what is important is to have more circuits. It's no good pouring all our efforts into these souless showpieces of contemporary architecture, where the circuit is to it's facilites as a parking lot is to a cinema. We're just gonna end up with a single big facility per country, and all the real venues like Brands are gonna go. And that will be sad. Since we cannot build lots more race tracks, it makes sense to have a few more semi permanent street tracks to supplement what we have already.
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