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Old 19 Jul 2004, 08:22 (Ref:1040103)   #1
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Lydden 17th July - What happened to the weather?

Well - apparently the rest of the south east had a pretty OK sort of day. NOT the case at Lydden.

We had a thunderstorm of epic proportions. There were rivers of water running down the hill and there were lakes (puddles just would not be appropriate) at the entry to Chessons and at the edge of the Dover Slope going into the Elbow.

The marshals were stood down during the worst of the weather as the lightning strikes all around were too numerous to mention. We were instructed to seek shelter wherever was safest from the lightning. The circuit kept loosing electrical power. Water running off the loose rallycross section at Paddock dragged much of the loose material onto the circuit opposite the startline.

There was, shall we say, an exchange of views in the assembly area towards the end of the day from a number of drivers who had been informed that they would not be having a race due to the amended timetable. From what little I understand, this was something to do with their race being part of a series, whereas the 2CV's who did get to race were part of a championship.

In over twenty years of marshalling I cannot remember worse weather.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 08:26 (Ref:1040107)   #2
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The same at Brands - totally chucked it down, but fortunately it co-incided with the lunch hour. The paddock was about 2" deep in water where I was, and that was on a slope - hate to think what it was like at the bottom of the hill.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 09:11 (Ref:1040146)   #3
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There was, shall we say, an exchange of views in the assembly area towards the end of the day from a number of drivers who had been informed that they would not be having a race due to the amended timetable.
That annoyed me too and I was only watching! The 2cv's had already completed a race whereas the sports guys hadn't - they should have been given the final race of the day. If I'd paid an entry fee and got 2 laps of racing I'd be severely hacked off. From a spectators point of view I'd rather have seen the sports guys in action (that was the main reason I was there) - the 2cv's were just plain dull.

Could the Toyo tyres race have been merged with the track and race saloons to save some time? The toyo grid was pretty thin so they could surely have been put together.

As for the weather - at the first sign of rain I moved the car right up to the fence at the top of the hill, no sooner had I done that the heavens opened. Cue the most impressive storm I have ever seen. I felt really sorry for the marshals - there's not a lot of protection for a lot of those posts.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 11:56 (Ref:1040276)   #4
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Sorry, it was my fault. I was so hot in the morning when the sun was shining that I popped down to Tescos and bought a pair of shorts and trainers. On the way back I was telling ecktic about the storms and river of water running through my garage that we had while he was in the USA and then the same thing happened again
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 12:16 (Ref:1040309)   #5
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Sorry, it was my fault. I was so hot in the morning when the sun was shining that I popped down to Tescos and bought a pair of shorts and trainers. On the way back I was telling ecktic about the storms and river of water running through my garage that we had while he was in the USA and then the same thing happened again
So you're to blame! (said jokingly).
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 12:29 (Ref:1040318)   #6
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So you're to blame! (said jokingly).
Yep, i'll try not to bring any rain in three weeks time
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 13:26 (Ref:1040367)   #7
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I was there and wouldn't have believed the lightning and thunder if I hadn't of been. Thank god I spent a bucket load on a motorhome rather than waste it on the car!!!!

You couldn't have run the Toyo race with the Race and track race because -

a) Four of the Toyo's were also racing in race and track race (or in my case should have been but I had already crashed once and had a dodgy oil pump - Red Corolla, over did on the first time ever on slicks despite warming them up as told to).

b) The Race and track race was already full (partly due to the above).

Being are participant in the Toyo Championship I too was dissappointed by the grid size. It seems people don't like racing at Lydden, I have noticed that many other series suffer there as well.

Don't know why, despite hitting the tyre wall I still love the place.

As an aside, thanks from all the racers to all the marshalls and officials for sticking it out in horrendous conditions. Much appreciated.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 14:02 (Ref:1040399)   #8
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[i]As an aside, thanks from all the racers to all the marshalls and officials for sticking it out in horrendous conditions. Much appreciated. [/B]
It was bad. As for "sticking it out" I couldn't possibly comment (this is a public forum after all). We began to think we would need an air-sea rescue helicopter to lift us out(actually one flew over the circuit last year, turned back and did a few "laps" in the air before waving and flying off!!).
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 14:17 (Ref:1040408)   #9
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I realise that some of the Toyo types were running in the track and race too but it would have been a way of letting everybody get a race in, what's the maximum grid size for Lydden? I thought there would have been room to squeeze then in.

Was there much damage to the Corolla? Obviously the front bumper was AWOL but was that the extent of the damage? You got away with the spin at the top of the hill too! I guess that was down to the damp track?

I've not really noticed a problem with grids before at Lydden, I'm there for every SEMSEC meeting (which is a Lydden based series so always has good grids), Rallycross usually has a good turnout too. I think that Toyo grid was the smallest I've seen anywhere recently, what sort of numbers do you usually get?
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U Know i got a slight case of sunburn at Pembrey, if that makes u feel any better.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 14:37 (Ref:1040423)   #11
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U Know i got a slight case of sunburn at Pembrey, if that makes u feel any better.
You're not helping!!!

Actually when I arrived at Lydden it was bright sunshine and when I left it was bright sunshine - it was just the bit inbetween that was the problem.

At Lydden sunburn wasn't the problem, it was more likely to be drowning or electrocution.....
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what's the maximum grid size for Lydden? I thought there would have been room to squeeze then in.
Only 21 starters.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 14:56 (Ref:1040436)   #13
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Not to much damage, my bodywork chap will have it sorted before Cadwell Park. The car will just weigh a bit more with the filler.

This spin on the hairpin was caused by me trying to use a higher gear to reduce wheelspin, it just spun at a higer speed. Still, made the guy in the Metro's day as he led the class for a while!!

This year we have been getting 12-15 for each meeting which is several down on last year. Last year at Lydden we had 17 cars. This is all really strange as the club has more members than ever before, they just aren't turning up at the same time or at all.

I completely agree that is not really an acceptable number and am pushing for us to merge with another road tyred series (any suggestions?). Otherwise I'll end up in a slick based series and will have to find a large supply of spare headlights!!!

Anybody know what happened to Chris Randell in the BMW M5 in the Track and race series?
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Really? I thought it was 24 (but wasn't sure - hence the question). Still, either way I guess there wasn't room to merge the two races then.
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Old 19 Jul 2004, 18:41 (Ref:1040599)   #15
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Really? I thought it was 24 (but wasn't sure - hence the question). Still, either way I guess there wasn't room to merge the two races then.
I believe the track licence is for 21 cars.
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