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#2 Mobil1/Mega, WAU Holden - Scott Pye | 0 | 0% | |
#3 Rabble Club, KR Nissan - Garry Jacobson | 0 | 0% | |
#5 The Bottle O, Tickford Ford - Lee Holdsworth | 0 | 0% | |
#6 Monster Energy, Tickford Ford - Cam Waters | 0 | 0% | |
#7 Kelly Racing, KR Nissan - Andre Heimgartner | 0 | 0% | |
#8 Brad Jones Racing, BJR Holden - Nick Percat | 0 | 0% | |
#9 Penrite Racing, Erebus Holden - David Reynolds | 9 | 23.08% | |
#12 Shell V Power, DJRTP Ford - Fabian Coulthard | 0 | 0% | |
#14 Freightliner, BJR Holden - Tim Slade | 0 | 0% | |
#15 Castrol Racing, KR Nissan - Rick Kelly | 0 | 0% | |
#17 Shell V Power, DJRTP Ford - Scott McLaughlin | 17 | 43.59% | |
#18 Irwin Racing, Chasports Holden - Mark Winterbottom | 1 | 2.56% | |
#19 Truck Assist, Tekno Holden - Jack Le Brocq | 0 | 0% | |
#21 Cooldrive Auto Parts, BJR Holden - Macauley Jones | 0 | 0% | |
#22 Mobil1/Mega, WAU Holden - James Courtney | 0 | 0% | |
#23 Milwaukee Racing, 23Red Ford - Will Davison | 0 | 0% | |
#33 Boost Mobile, GRM Holden - Richie Stanaway | 0 | 0% | |
#34 Boost Mobile, GRM Holden - James Golding | 1 | 2.56% | |
#35 Optus Racing, MSR Holden - Todd Hazelwood | 0 | 0% | |
#55 SuperCheap Auto, Tickford Ford - Chaz Mostert | 2 | 5.13% | |
#78 Harvey Norman, KR Nissan - Simona De Silvestro | 0 | 0% | |
#88 Red Bull Holden, RBHRT Holden - Jamie Whincup | 2 | 5.13% | |
#97 Red Bull Holden, RBHRT Holden - Shane Van Gisbergen | 7 | 17.95% | |
#99 Penrite Racing, Erebus Holden - Anton de Pasquale | 0 | 0% | |
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28 Mar 2019, 21:54 (Ref:3893995) | #1501 | ||
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28 Mar 2019, 22:09 (Ref:3893997) | #1502 | ||
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There's still a long way to go, and plenty of time for the Team 18 curse to ensue |
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29 Mar 2019, 02:49 (Ref:3894016) | #1503 | |
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It will be a worry if the superior Ford teams are no longer filling places 1st to 5th at Tasmania. Ford fans will have every right to be furious.
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29 Mar 2019, 03:20 (Ref:3894017) | #1504 | ||||
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My God Really? I have no doubt Scotty Mac will still brain everybody, but really other than maybe Waters, the others have been flattered by a car that was demonstrably better than everything else. Here's an except for the factual and mature response from DJRTP: Quote:
Team representatives: Brad Jones Rod Nash Todd Kelly Tim Edwards Ryan Story (alternate) Management: Sean Seamer (CEO) Shane Howard (COO) Adrian Burgess (in place of Dave Stuart?) It is most interesting that Tickford has 2 seats on the commission. Last edited by Mixer; 29 Mar 2019 at 03:42. |
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29 Mar 2019, 04:26 (Ref:3894023) | #1505 | ||
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Don't you think it would be a travesty if aces like Waters and Davidson are bumped from their rightful place in the top 5, by this unprecedented adjustment to make their motor vehicles worse? |
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29 Mar 2019, 05:33 (Ref:3894027) | #1506 | ||
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29 Mar 2019, 05:33 (Ref:3894028) | #1507 | ||||
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Supercars results so far of 19th, 8th and 16th are a highlight for your crack Tickford outfit... As for Will Davison he is a journeyman, he has placed 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the Supercar championship over the years, but I don't think he is anywhere near an Ace. His 2016 Bathurst win makes him the Stephen Bradbury of Supercars competition. |
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29 Mar 2019, 09:16 (Ref:3894062) | #1508 | |||
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Strange you're now claiming TR to be "the highest funded" team; yet you also claim at any possible opportunity, whether it's even relevant or not, they receive cut-price sponsorship income. Which one is it? Can you get your story straight? Quote:
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29 Mar 2019, 09:19 (Ref:3894063) | #1509 | |
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29 Mar 2019, 09:29 (Ref:3894064) | #1510 | |
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COG testing after two rounds of the championship. Something Supercar should have been doing after every new build pre season. The 200kph wind test is great if they all raced in a straight line at 200kph. Tickford is not happy with the ruling and I don't blame them. I'd love to be racing a car that has been built to have a clear advantage over the other makes of cars in the field. Lets see at the next round if the Mustangs have to start putting some wing into their cars and take up the first five placing. Wasn't hard to see that the Mustangs had a mechanical advantage somewhere, fastest cars on track with next to no wing needed compared to the other brands. People still crying on that the ZB had an aero advantage over the falcon, really who won the championship last year? I think there was nothing in it at all. the ZB wasn't the jet they said it would be with the more sloping roof line and considering it's a bit of a brick in the front. The Ford teams would know the COG of the falcon and knew it was in the window of the other two brands. So went from *****ing about the ZB last year to exploiting the COG in their new build the next in the way of round 30kgs and it's not just the fact of putting the 30kgs in the roof, but the weight will be coming out of the lower extremities of the car also. Next round will be interesting.
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29 Mar 2019, 10:34 (Ref:3894080) | #1511 | |
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So much semanticism in here right now.
Kinda wish you clowns would just take a chill pill and enjoy the sport for what it is. |
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29 Mar 2019, 18:04 (Ref:3894146) | #1512 | ||
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If Supercars did these things at appropriate times, behind closed doors, no one (bar team/industry insiders) would even have to know. When they started to envision 2 door vs 4 door maybe they should have also made sure they had a satisfactory method of balancing such different cars, before letting them race and claim championship points? Or you know, they could claim parity is "as close a ever", then it's not, then there's in season changes, all this fuelling conspiracy theorist and diehard alike. If you run the series professionally, maybe you'll have fans representative of that. I feel like, in that regard, Supercars have the fans they deserve. Last edited by Compromised; 29 Mar 2019 at 18:12. |
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29 Mar 2019, 21:50 (Ref:3894172) | #1513 | |||
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Makes him similar to other 'journeymen', like for example Courtney, or Reynolds, or Tander; in terms ofYou know, other than the fact that those guys have won championships, and one of them was an F1 test driver... Despite Will's family pedigree he is nothing better than average now. Capable but only in the top 3 because of the car. |
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29 Mar 2019, 22:14 (Ref:3894175) | #1514 | |
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6kg difference between the ZB and composite Altima. Wonder what the difference was with the steel panel clad Altima and FG-X. Barry Ryan claims 2 rounds too late for COG testing. More like 12 months and 2 rounds....
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29 Mar 2019, 22:34 (Ref:3894181) | #1515 | ||
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29 Mar 2019, 23:22 (Ref:3894188) | #1516 | ||
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He's as "average" as Courtney, Reynolds, and pretty much most of the field. F1 'test driver' - what good is that to anyone. 9 years at HRT/WAU and absolutely nothing achieved. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. No doubt he'll be due for another pay rise soon. |
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30 Mar 2019, 04:36 (Ref:3894214) | #1517 | ||
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So two hypotheticals for next weekend:
- All 6 Mustangs in the Top ten....what happens next? - All 6 Mustangs miss the Top ten....what happens next? |
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30 Mar 2019, 05:20 (Ref:3894215) | #1518 | ||
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No stangs in the top ten then no action to be taken, mission accomplished by supercars. |
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30 Mar 2019, 07:25 (Ref:3894227) | #1519 | |
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How should that weight added?
Makes no sense to increase the overall weight of the cars, so the kilogramms that are added somewhere in the roof area has to be reduced somewhere else! But depending on where they take away the weight (mufflers) that also has influence on CoG. |
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30 Mar 2019, 09:34 (Ref:3894230) | #1520 | ||
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PHilip Island will be the first round that we will be able judge performance. |
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30 Mar 2019, 14:07 (Ref:3894273) | #1521 | ||
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Ford fans bloody well hope not. For the finest teams in the series, with Ford Performance having done the best job, to be penalised this way through a rule that didn't exist before seems most outrageous and untenable. |
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30 Mar 2019, 21:56 (Ref:3894343) | #1522 | |
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It's all about holden, look at how long nissan struggled for and nobody worried about CoG or anything else to help them, hence nissan left the series.
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31 Mar 2019, 00:47 (Ref:3894360) | #1523 | ||
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They also cannot "attack" the Ford aero because they don't have a means to test it to see where any advantage lies. The straight line tests were equal and signed off on and that's as much data that they have on aerodynamics. |
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Matt White Racing have repeatedly demonstrated that the Nissan is more than a match for its' peers. |
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It would be interesting to see MWM run a wildcard at Bathurst, and anywhere else they want to run, to compare pace with the mother ship...
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