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16 Aug 2004, 22:42 (Ref:1068690)
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17 Aug 2004, 01:45 (Ref:1068805)
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From: Foxsports
Security upgrade By Peter Krupka August 17, 2004 RACE circuits around Australia have been ordered to upgrade security following the sabotaging of leading driver Jason Bright's car last weekend. Wayne Cattach, chief executive of the sport's governing body AVESCO, made the move yesterday as suspicion grew that a member of the public, rather than a rival team, tampered with Bright's PWR Team Holden Commodore at Oran Park in Sydney's southwest last Thursday night. "AVESCO has instructed every circuit to conduct an immediate review and upgrade of their individual security arrangements," Cattach said. "We are taking this matter extremely seriously given that it put the safety of at least one driver in jeopardy." Bright discovered as he reached speeds of more than 150km/h during Friday's practice session that his throttle was stuck open. He was forced to stall the engine to avoid crashing but was unable to re-start. His team later found a plastic bag had been wrapped around his throttle keeping it open. Further investigations revealed several nuts and bolts inside a cylinder caused the engine to seize. Bright is the series leader and well placed to take his first title this year. AVESCO technical director Paul Taylor investigated the sabotage claims and concluded there was no evidence that a rival team tampered with Bright's car, which was mistakenly not locked away on Thursday night. |
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17 Aug 2004, 02:17 (Ref:1068812)
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So PWR left the car on the pit apron on thursday night?
I seem to remember thursday night was SERIOUSLY windy in west sydney. I mean S.E.S and trees down kinda wind. That kind of wind can do all sorts of tricks, so I wonder if it possible that an empty plastic bag could have just been BLOWN under the bonnet? Murphies Law suggests it will end up in the exact worst place. (No Im not blaming The Spud). That doesnt explain the nuts'n'bolts, I know, but then i fail to understand how they could get thru the valve gear and into the cylinder anyway? surely the valves would not open far enough and long enough to let them into the chamber? Unless they think someone actually removed the cylinder head unseen. I dunno, but given any situation I would always tend to suspect stupidity or plain fluke rather than true evil, anyday. |
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17 Aug 2004, 02:28 (Ref:1068816)
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A nut inside a combustion chamber can do a great deal of damage, especially to an aluminium piston and head. Plus bending valves as the bits pass into the chamber. Valves open a fair way with high ratio rockers and high lift cams.
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17 Aug 2004, 02:31 (Ref:1068818)
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I wouldnt rule it out, depending on their size of course.
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17 Aug 2004, 04:09 (Ref:1068843)
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I'm doubting the full facts are coming out here...
Mind you, it looks far more sensational if you scream sabotage, rather than "my apprentice made a big booboo!". But, from what has come out, the bolts aren't motor bolts, correct? If it was a member of the public, I hope that the person fully understands that Jason could have crashed heavily, not only injuring or killing himself, but other drivers, marshalls, officials or even spectators.... Rather nasty consequences. I know I wouldn't be able to live with that on my conscience.... |
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17 Aug 2004, 10:06 (Ref:1069066)
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Pretty controversial season actually wouldn't you say- wiregate, Larrygate, plasticboltgate. What's next?
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17 Aug 2004, 10:37 (Ref:1069100)
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Maybe next time Tom won't leave go fast bits in the engine for the team
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17 Aug 2004, 12:23 (Ref:1069230)
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Off topic, has anything happened about the fire bomb that flew out the back of bargs car !
 How dangerous was that, could have been a serious incident, lucky for him that it did not hit someone. The idea of having a fire bomb and a battery underneath the floor in front of the rear wheels or beside the fuel tank is down right dangerous, great for performance but the old in the cabin thing is far more practical.  if you risk this installation position and it files out - who's suing who.
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17 Aug 2004, 12:43 (Ref:1069251)
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But if it flys around the cabin????
Lets face it, if a team can not mount a fire bottle properly could you trust them to mount a seat or a roll cage? |
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17 Aug 2004, 12:54 (Ref:1069260)
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If it flys around the cabin it does'nt kill spectators, yes it can harm the driver, but it would have been contained in a smaller area.
P.S: Also it is less likely to become detached from going over ripple strips.....
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17 Aug 2004, 13:34 (Ref:1069295)
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there has been alot of claims of sabotage in saloon cars were the front runners cars have been played with. Thats pretty low but having seen the air box its pretty hard to get into a V8 superdcar throttle linkage isnt? im definelty going with a apprentice who's work wasn't checked over by a senior member could even be the same with pauls steering rack but if they run a rack similar to a road car it could be easy to get a spanner in there and play around. maybe a drunk blue eyed ford supporter or maybe even a die hard HRT fan who dislikes another team getting up there?
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17 Aug 2004, 23:09 (Ref:1069919)
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Also, whats worse, a lose firebomb flying through the air...or a whole vehicle with a knocked-out driver...Food for thought... |
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17 Aug 2004, 23:13 (Ref:1069922)
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A:a lose firebomb flying through the air-is worse.. (whole vehicle with a knocked-out driver)- This would only happen if it came lose !!!!!  see above
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17 Aug 2004, 23:35 (Ref:1069937)
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i.e. the mounting bracket was not good enough/tight enough or whatever... Why would a ripple strip effect the secureness of anything mounted in one place more than another? Last edited by lcfp2297; 17 Aug 2004 at 23:36. |
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18 Aug 2004, 01:08 (Ref:1069997)
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If it is mounted under the car, there is more chance of it being caught on the ripple strips and pulled lose, than if it is mounted internally. Remember Lowndes ripped an oil cooler of at Sandown last year, after bouncing over the ripple strip to much.
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18 Aug 2004, 01:38 (Ref:1070012)
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I would have thought that you'd have to mount it somewhere where those rascally ripple strips couldn't reach it, and/or have it protected...but it sounds like I'm wrong on both counts...
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18 Aug 2004, 01:54 (Ref:1070020)
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You would be amazed by the damage that a ripple strip can do the the underside of one of those cars, even more so to an open wheeler.
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If they do not suspect the public, they must have some evidence for this- right ?
Spot on Datto- Thanks
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18 Aug 2004, 12:08 (Ref:1070388)
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So the motor was running at full noise when it went off because the throttle was stuck open with a plastic bag and then...
When they recovered the car the motor was locked up by some bolts and nuts on top of the piston ...... Sounds a bit fishy to me! |
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18 Aug 2004, 12:27 (Ref:1070406)
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That poor hotel in Washington has a lot to answer for, even after all this time!!!
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