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Old 4 Oct 2021, 13:18 (Ref:4076925)   #1
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Ride height is too damn low

We have been talking for decades on how to chance racecar regulations to improve the show.


Most people talk about making wings smaller or remove them, or reduce the wheel size.


However, I have a new theory: increase ride height.

Ride height has become smaller and smaller over the years, to increase underbody downforce. To make it work, suspension must be ridiculously hard.


The result is that cars barely roll. And this makes cars look like they aren't cornering fast.


This looks fast:





This doesn't:





So just mandate 10 cm of ride height, and problem solved!
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Old 4 Oct 2021, 13:27 (Ref:4076930)   #2
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We have been talking for decades on how to chance racecar regulations to improve the show.


Most people talk about making wings smaller or remove them, or reduce the wheel size.


However, I have a new theory: increase ride height.

Ride height has become smaller and smaller over the years, to increase underbody downforce. To make it work, suspension must be ridiculously hard.


The result is that cars barely roll. And this makes cars look like they aren't cornering fast.


This looks fast:





This doesn't:





So just mandate 10 cm of ride height, and problem solved!
Interesting thought. When the NGTC regs were first used in BTCC, the following was typical of many observers' comments at the time:

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For me, as a spectacle, I think the NGTC cars are "ok". They just don't seem to have the poise or precision of the old supertourers or even the S2000 cars. They just seem "wallowy" and very "soft", like a blancmange on wheels, they have so much body-roll.
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This looks fast:
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This doesn't:


The DTM cars may not 'look fast' in a photo but on track their cornering speed was spectacular to watch - they certainly 'looked fast' in the flesh. The aero meant that they couldn't follow each other closely but there was no problem with how fast they looked.
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I think the DTM car looks much faster! The touring car looks like something someone drove to the track for a RWYB session. The DTM car looks like a spaceship.
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SC cars look dynamic and spectacular.
DTM cars look maybe fast but also boring.
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I'm not talking about the bodywork, but about the ride height and roll.
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I'm not talking about the bodywork, but about the ride height and roll.
I know. But the two things go hand-in-hand. High ride and roll is not what top cars do. I mean, the roll has largely been engineered out of Lotus Cortinas now! There’s a delight to be had in watching drivers grapple with big roll and under-steer, but it’s hardly modern motorsport.
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De-regulate the requirement for billiard table smooth circuits. The rest would follow.
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yeees, i agree - it looks really spectacular!
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De-regulate the requirement for billiard table smooth circuits. The rest would follow.
One track comes to mind... Sebring.
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