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Also, in regards to getting another radio guy in, I'm surprised there's not a bit more love for Crofty! I think he's great when watching practice sessions. |
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I'll give it a shot. Who'll sign a petition?
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Is there any substance to this thing I read about Crofty and Martin Brundle not getting on? Otherwise, they are an obvious pair. *Edit- in fact, they're N obvious pair even if they don't get on that great, because it would not be difficult for them to have more rapport than Martin and Jonathan.
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15 Sep 2010, 15:17 (Ref:2759847) | #29 | ||
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I know. What I'm saying is that I think Brundle can do either role. You obviously can't have two analysts, that would be ridiculous! I genuinely think Brundle could move to being lead commentator - yes, it would require adapting his commentary style, but I think he could do it.
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Crofty is great for practice sessions, but if you listen to him during the races he can get a little bit too much, trying to make everything sound very exciting. At least during the start of the races. Other than that I like him alot, im sure he would do a much better job than Legard
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I agree that Martin could do the lead commentator role. He could still provide his usual insight. Perhaps a realisation that the format can be re-jigged is the way forward. So you could have Martin on lead vocal, bringing his insight as well, and a more recent F1 driver alongside him.
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(Generally I just enjoy his insights and grid walk, but when Hamilton had his coming together with Massa, Brundle instantly spotted the broken steering arm saying he's out of the race. Jonathon Legless just carried on waffling...) |
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15 Sep 2010, 16:27 (Ref:2759898) | #33 | |
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Oh joy! How I missed this thread, I don't know. I thought I was alone in my complete and utter contempt for Mr Legard and his inane ramblings. One more uttering of "pushing on" and I'll have to trash the TV. Maybe an online petition to show the level of feeling? Same thing for Mr "mix my metaphors" Jordan.
How about making Martin Brundle the lead commentator, and rope in Eddie Irvine to be a latter-day James Hunt. What a combination that would be! |
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I'm wondering if DC is being fitted for the role alongside Martin?
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I desperately hope not. The torture of listening to a Red Bull spokesman for two hours straight would instantly destroy my enjoyment of Brundle's excellent commentary.
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I'd like James Allen back (the pre Hamilton version thanks!!) and on the following conditions:
1) He never EVER says Sennaesque! 2) He never EVER describes Hamilton's overtakes as "majestic" 3) He never EVER goes crazy like at the end of Hungary 06 when Button won Other than that, I'd really like to see him back. Here in Australia, before we cross to the BBC feed, we get James Allen's reports from the paddock and they are often pretty good. |
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Legard: "Oh and that's Hamilton! This doesn't look too good at all!" I've noticed a lot of things "don't look good at all" to him. Usually things that are on fire, in the barrier, or missing wheels. I always get the feeling he's not 100% sure when he sees these things that the person involved is actually out of the race. Even when he does get the stomach to say "...with Lewis Hamilton out of the race" he always puts a "it seems" on the end. It doesn't 'seem' that way, Jonathan, it IS that way. He's in the gravel with a wheel pointing the wrong way and his engine off. |
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No one has tried that so far this season. Not even Ferrari. It's banned, apparently. But yes, it's things like stating the obvious and then leaving some doubt, that really gets on your wick with JL! |
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My all time faourite quote of Murrays for its complete 'non-value' content has to be: "This has been a great season for Nelson Piquet, as he is now known, and always has been" or Murray : And Coulthard is now on the inside, AND HE'S GOING THROUGH!!! (add appropriate excitement) Martin : That's a replay, Murray. and sooo many more. Also, everytime I watch this clip (45 sec in ) it never ceases to make me laugh out load: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnXDE...eature=related OK so stop dreaming of the good old days, back on topic - I agree I think Brundle could do it, but I feel he is best with the odd sensible contribution and dry racing wit. When he says things you just know its no BS and he is a true racer himself, it really comes across. There are several very good commentators that cover the national racing series that could easily step in and do twice the job of JL. |
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15 Sep 2010, 17:48 (Ref:2759949) | #41 | |||
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"And here's Hamilton going through on the inside, maybe?" "No I think this is a replay". "Oh and this is...Alonso going past again? So Massa got back through somewhere but Alonso past yet again." "I think we're looking at a replay there" And every single time a car gets out of the slipstream "he's coming through here perhaps?! No, not this time!" |
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It is after all a people sport. Like it or not half the entertainment comes from opinion. We tend to think of Murray (and in my case) James H as being the pinnacle of F1 commentary teams. Yet the variations in levels of enthusiasm are there to see in Legard and others.
I like Jake H although I'd never heard of him before the F1 gig, yet he comes across as a consummate professional, knowing what questions to ask and when. DC and EJ provide good entertainment. Charlie Cox would be a retrograde step IMO. He's crass and lacks the flair of Murray who could get away with the "pants on fire" thing. Never heard Ben thingy. I like Crofty and of course have the utmost respect for Ant and Karun. Why not put Lee McKenzie in the Legard slot if there has to be a change? She knows her stuff. Frankly I'd leave it as is though. |
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I think Karun is the best analyst out of the three. He is a fountain of knowledge and he doesn't waffle. He says what needs to be said and he will even keep you informed as to whats going on on-track while he's giving you useull information. Its a hard skill to master. I think he's brilliant however as mentioned before with his age his career would probably be more of a priority than becoming a commentator.
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Whats Murray up to these days...?
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I would also vote for Ben as a commentator. However, that would probably mean taking him off the BTCC, and I'd rather he was there than in F1 - far more interesting........(probably shouldn't say that in the F1 forum!!!) Murray though for me was the voice of F1 - today, Ben is as close as you can get. The other thing with Legard is that he has started muttering far too much. I didn't mind him at the start, but a muffled voice is not a commentator voice. |
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The BBC F1 show as motorsport presentation isn't great, just a bit better than ITV, good is too strong a word, as an overall package, its just fair. In some regards they are strangled by things like the limited pit radio tranmissions, but BBC F1 should be better than it is. Its also a shame the BBC have little or no coverage of any other kind of motorsport. |
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John Watson used to do an excellent job in the days when Eurosport showed GP coverage and I believe his services might be available.
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If I was the BBC I would swap Croft and Legard. Pit Legard back on the radio duties and bring Croft to the tv.
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Be very afraid if you get Cox for this.
You will constantly hear words like shuffle and nightmare in a bubble car that will drive you insane as his bike commentary does! He is occasionally funny and has a good rapprt with people, but his commentary (hos main job after all) is dire and very limited in knowledge being a driver after all. Brunders is fine, but Legard needs to go, simply not good enough and still rambling on while things are happening that he doesnt notice and Martin does, then gets almost told off for interrupting! |
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