[VASC18R25] SuperCheap Auto Bathurst 1000, Mount Panorama 4-7 October

[mayhem]

If Morris is right, makes you wonder why the 12 Hour went to a four day meeting.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by Razor

Can't see it happen, more or less tradition to have Thursday and Friday practice. Plus co-drivers do need the laps.

Your post got me thinking about days allocated for practice and/or qualifying for the 500 / 1000.

It has certainly changed over the years.

1963 to 1975 - Saturday Only

1976 to 1977 - Friday & Saturday

1978 to 1997 - Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday

1998 to present day - Thursday, Friday and Saturday

[Umai Naa]

Thursday seems a bit pointless in terms of Supercars.

[GTRMagic]

I used to like the Wednesday sessions...

[db120176]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Not happy...

Constantly comes off as over it, no matter who he is driving for or where

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by db120176

Constantly comes off as over it, no matter who he is driving for or where

Holdsworth to S5000 and/or TCR?

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I used to like the Wednesday sessions...

I used to like the Media Day a month before Bathurst.

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Holdsworth to S5000 and/or TCR?

TCM

[Denosaur]

Originally Posted by db120176

Constantly comes off as over it, no matter who he is driving for or where

From the moment he left GRM.... I remember him doing an interview for Fox Sports and talking up how much better position he would be in going to SBR with the COTF coming in. Boy how that all changed in the 12 months after...

Whincup excluded, as he got the arse from GRM, but the drivers who have been humble in their departure from that team seem to have done better than old Lee here. That my observation only...

[GTRMagic]

[GTRMagic]

A ‘Bad Batch’ Of Power Steering Fluid Threatened Lowndes’ Weekend

Not a great indictment of Caltex automotive products...

[Umai Naa]

Similar to the bad batch of Rain-X from last year?

[Average Punter]

No doubt a bad batch of wheel-nuts too.......

[chavez]

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...19-p50gwh.html

A typical Supercar fan?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by chavez

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...19-p50gwh.html

A typical Supercar fan?

Had he taken the bus to the top, the police sniffer dogs would likely have found his stash..... regardless of the sharing of obscenities

[Mixer]

Lucky the PM didn't go after him for libel, the problem with that would be the statements could be found to be factual...

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Had he taken the bus to the top, the police sniffer dogs would likely have found his stash..... regardless of the sharing of obscenities

When have the sniffer dogs ever gone through the shuttle bus? Haven't seen that for at least 5 years, maybe longer.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by mayhem

When have the sniffer dogs ever gone through the shuttle bus? Haven't seen that for at least 5 years, maybe longer.

We were stopped last year on the trip to the top. Perhaps it’s not there all the time...

[Alan52]

I have just received the hardcover Bathurst annual published by the company that produces the program.
Fantastic book which is well above what my expectations were for it.For those lamenting the end of the Great Race series this is the replacement.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Alan52

I have just received the hardcover Bathurst annual published by the company that produces the program.
Fantastic book which is well above what my expectations were for it.For those lamenting the end of the Great Race series this is the replacement.

Is there a story or is it predominantly full of images?

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Is there a story or is it predominantly full of images?

168 pages total.About 20 pages text,13 pages stats and the balance photos.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Alan52

168 pages total.About 20 pages text,13 pages stats and the balance photos.

How can something with only 20 pages of text be a replacement for the Great Race series?

Isn't V8Sleuth putting one out too?

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by one five five

How can something with only 20 pages of text be a replacement for the Great Race series?

Isn't V8Sleuth putting one out too?

Thanks for the heads up on the Noonan book as I wasn't aware of it.I have ordered it and will get back with a comparison when it arrives.Its raining Bathurst annuals!
As for your comment about comparing the V8 Xtra book to The Great Race while it isn't the minute by minute car by car commentary that book was in 20 pages of text you can give a lot of detail.As a point of comparison Chevrons big Bathurst history books had 6-7 pages on each race.
The fantastic Le Mans race annual has no long form text at all until you get to the Technical Review and an interview at the end of the book.It uses 4-5 line descriptors besides each photo.There are lots of ways to do this.

[Average Punter]

Most of my Great Race books have 260 pages. And six "editorial contributors"

They look great all lined up in the bookcase and everyone asks "how come you don't have any after 2011???"

[Alan52]

Received the Noonan Bathurst book and thought I'd post a comparison with the Clarke (V8Xtra) book.Two race annuals that are radically different in nearly every way.
Price-about $75 each
Printing Details-Noonan book is soft cover with non gloss paper and 190 pages.Clarke book is hard cover with gloss paper and 168 pages.
Text details-Noonan book has equivalent of one page of writing covering practice,qualifying and shootout.Clarke book has 10 pages of writing for this.As for race Clarke book has about 8 pages of text.For Noonan book this is where it gets unique/strange.There is no race description.Instead each car has its own 4 page "chapter" with about two thirds of a page of text (about half of which is driver quotes) and the rest is photos of that car.
Statistics-Race statistics pretty similar except Noonan book has a lap chart.Noonan book also includes a chassis history of each car and about 12 pages of race history stats.
My conclusions.Knowing the previous publications both have done I would have backed the Noonan book to be the best.However soft cover and non glossy paper are big drawbacks and would reflect the higher cost of printing in Australia.Previous motor racing yearbooks that have tried non gloss paper (Great Race 1989 and Autocourse/Motocourse 2004) have faced consumer backlash and reverted to gloss after 1 year.The only Yearbook I get that has maintained non gloss paper is the one for the Nurburgring 24 Hour however the paper quality is much higher for the German book.As for the text for all pre race stuff 1 page is as pathetic as it sounds..As for the race I would assume that people wanting a yearbook of the race would want a race description in there somewhere.Whether that is in a straight text format like The Great Race,a detailed photograph caption format like the Le Mans Annual or mainly photographic with a written summary like Nurburgring(although the written part is a lot more detailed if you can read German for that one).I think there is a reason why no other annual has ever used the Noonan format and that is because it is terrible.
At the most I would think only one of these can survive.I hope it is the Clarke book as I wouldn't buy the Noonan one again even if it was the only one on the market.Hate to be so critical but it reflects my disappointment.