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Old 8 Dec 2009, 09:44 (Ref:2595991)   #1
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Monoposto Racing Club 2010

On behalf of the Monoposto Racing Club, allow me to draw you attention to the publication of the 2010 calender and draft regulations.

Both are available on the Monoposto website - www.monoposto.co.uk
The draft regs can be downloaded in PDF form here
The 2010 calender can be downloaded in Word format here

The calender looks like this:


Date Round Venue Organising Club

28/03/2010 1 Brands Hatch MSVR
08/05/2010 2 Thruxton MSVR

22/05/2010 3/4 Anglesey CSCC

12/06/2010 5/6 Snetterton MSVR

29/08/2010 7/8 Mallory Park CSCC

11/09/2010 9 Oulton Park Inter. MSVR

25/09/2010 10/11 Croft DDMC

02/10/2010 NC Silverstone GP (NC) BRSCC (Britcar)

16/10/2010 12/13 Silverstone National MSVR
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Old 8 Dec 2009, 09:46 (Ref:2595993)   #2
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Still no SPA??
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Old 8 Dec 2009, 10:23 (Ref:2596007)   #3
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Sadly not. I'm not privvy to the exact details, but I gather that in 2008 the event made a not inconsiderable loss for the club, and it was decided that it wasn't economically viable to return on the same basis - at least not every year.

However, a person with contacts might be able to arrange a grid (or a proportional of a grid) at Spa with another club independently from Mono itself.

Are you out in 2010 Jeremy?
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Old 11 Dec 2009, 14:39 (Ref:2597919)   #4
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Thruxton and Silverstone GP can't wait
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Old 6 Jan 2010, 17:28 (Ref:2608996)   #5
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Still no SPA??
Jeremy

Details of Spa, July 3rd & 4th now on the Mono forum.

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Snetterton date is now 19/20th June.
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If you are interested drop Simon a line as he needs to know who's interested.

Will run with French FFZetecs
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Old 10 Jan 2010, 20:49 (Ref:2611210)   #8
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Just come across this forum.
And people are asking me questions?
Nice to see you all.

Still have my car so intend to do Spa, Silverstone GP.
Will do the opening Brands and Thruxton if car back together.

Then who knows.

Will be at the dinner, see anyone who's going there.
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Old 17 Feb 2010, 21:29 (Ref:2635193)   #9
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F Ford Zetecs (1800s) would run in Mono 1800, alongside F Ford 2000s (Pintos) and Formula Vauxhall Junior 16V.
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Old 18 Feb 2010, 11:59 (Ref:2635537)   #10
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F4 cars also qualify for 1800cc class I think...the idea of been beaten by a loads of Zetecs may be too hard to bear....
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no they don't you can add wings but the engine must remain standard FFZetec. You'd run in the mono2000 as car is to those rule except 1800cc
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no they don't you can add wings but the engine must remain standard FFZetec. You'd run in the mono2000 as car is to those rule except 1800cc
Which is what Jonathan Lewis did when he first started racing in both F4 & Mono a few years ago. Later, I believe he had the ability to change rear ends on his car so that he could swap easily between series!
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Would an '09 BARC spec FR2000 be competitive in mono? Anyone know what power they make with the restrictor fitted?
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Nobody knows, as it hasn't been done, but I suspect that it would be extremely competitive in Mono2000.
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Would an '09 BARC spec FR2000 be competitive in mono? Anyone know what power they make with the restrictor fitted?

They'd probably be very competitive. Closest comparison
I have seen was at the Plum Pudding meeting a few years ago when Ray Rowan (in a Club F3 Dallara) was hassled by a well driven F Renault 2000 (Worswick IIRC) for many laps but note both were running at normal ride height not Monoposto 40mm. Still, as everyone in Mono is at 40mm then its equal for all.
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Old 22 Feb 2010, 17:01 (Ref:2638386)   #16
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Which is what Jonathan Lewis did when he first started racing in both F4 & Mono a few years ago. Later, I believe he had the ability to change rear ends on his car so that he could swap easily between series!
How did Jonathan Lewis get on in Monoposto? I have his car now and was racing in F4 last season but this year due to other commitments i can't do the championship. The only race i have seen that i can make this season is the mono round at Anglesey in May. As far as i know 36mm chokes are allowed for the carbs but i'm not sure of any other performance mods compared to class A F4 (other than bolting in a 2 litre engine!!). Does anyone else know of anything i could do?
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How did Jonathan Lewis get on in Monoposto? I have his car now and was racing in F4 last season but this year due to other commitments i can't do the championship. The only race i have seen that i can make this season is the mono round at Anglesey in May. As far as i know 36mm chokes are allowed for the carbs but i'm not sure of any other performance mods compared to class A F4 (other than bolting in a 2 litre engine!!). Does anyone else know of anything i could do?
Dave, JL had a completely different back end for mono. He would just swap for which ever race he was doing. JL had the 5 speed box and 2.0l engine. He also used the stickier tyres as well. Would cost you about £7k to get a mono spec car ready. Just race it how it is as you will still get a podium. There is a big gap in speed from the fastest 2 in mono to the rest of the championship.
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u cant run a 09 spec FR - I thought they had to be BARC spec cars in Mono?? If so this is a fair bit slower than full TOCA spec. I think a good Club F3 time and a TOCA spec FR are the same - and about 2 secs quicker than best mono time around Snett...
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u cant run a 09 spec FR - I thought they had to be BARC spec cars in Mono?? If so this is a fair bit slower than full TOCA spec. I think a good Club F3 time and a TOCA spec FR are the same - and about 2 secs quicker than best mono time around Snett...

BARC have now ditched the restrictor so a TOCA car can be used in Mono. The old BARC car isnt as good aero wise but this means it should be quicker at Snett and Silverstone
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JL was Mono 2000 Champion in 2003 and 2004 but I can't remember which year he ran his car in Mono 2000 in 1800cc modified F4 trim.
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BARC FR2000 for Mono?

So Tristan and Andy recon a BARC FRenault will be competeitive, my only concern is power - in Toca trim (unrestricted) apparently they make 192bhp. BARC used a 35mm restrictor up to 2009 - any idea what power they make?
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Guys - don;t forget you can also run a LSD - I reckon this and the tyres make a big difference.

Chris - as far as I know - Mono only allows old style BARC spec - which are a smidgen faster than a F4 but not a fast as a Mono 2ltr car.

I think the VD can win - but you need to do all the mods to get it up there. Remember you can use the ST170 Zetec motor as a base for your engine - and you can play around with cam timing etc. I suspect you get 20hp+ over a F4 engine, stickier tyres, LSD, you can also run throttle bodies if you want (and thus mess around with ECUs etc etc) 5 speed boxes etc etc... I am not sure you need £7k to make the back end work - but certainly its not a cheap fix... If anyone wants a Mono Zetec engine - I know of one for sale...

I thought you needed to be well into the 1.06s around Snett to win in Mono - I think you can do it with a VD - but thats prob the limit to the cars....

In terms of JL - I am not sure what competition he had - but I suspect the guys at the front now in the Dallaras (who are into the 1.07s at Snett/43s at Mallory etc) would have given him a very good run. And the chassis he used to win the mono stuff was the car i bought off his brother - now with RW in F4....
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There is a big gap in speed from the fastest 2 in mono to the rest of the championship.
I would like to claim fastest 3!

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I thought you needed to be well into the 1.06s around Snett to win in Mono - I think you can do it with a VD - but thats prob the limit to the cars....
1.07s seems to be 'the pace' at Snett these days, but I know my 'theoretical best lap' is a 1m06.999, and I'm hoping to go a bit quicker in 2010.
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Chris - as far as I know - Mono only allows old style BARC spec - which are a smidgen faster than a F4 but not a fast as a Mono 2ltr car.

I think the VD can win - but you need to do all the mods to get it up there. Remember you can use the ST170 Zetec motor as a base for your engine - and you can play around with cam timing etc. .... you can also run throttle bodies if you want (and thus mess around with ECUs etc etc) ...
BARC Spec F Renault. Tick.

Mono 2000 Engines:

"STANDARD PRODUCTION ENGINES UP TO 2000cc WITH NON
VARIABLE CAMSHAFT TIMING PRODUCED TO A MINIMUM NUMBER OF 1000 UNITS IN ANY ONE YEAR FOR ANY ONE EU MEMBER STATE. Only engines for which the manufacturer's detailed specifications are available to the MRC are permitted. Registered competitors must ensure that the manufacturer’s specification, to the satisfaction of the eligibility scrutineer, can be provided for the engine that is entered in the championship. Engines with variable camshaft timing as original specification are not eligible even if timing
is subsequently fixed permanently.

Standard specification does not mean a collection of standard components. It means an engine which matches the original specification for the make and model indicated by the manufacturer’s engine number. This includes compression ratio and valve timing."


"Original Specification Fuel Injection may be replaced by Carbs. Throttle body fuel injection with a maximum choke diameter of 40.10 mm within each individual throttle body may be used."

"Where fuel injection is used, ECU and wiring loom are free...
For Ford Zetec engines valve timing is free: camshaft and crankshaft valve timing pulleys must remain standard."
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I don't think i'll be doing any mods then but it should be fun to see how close i can get to the F3 cars. I think on new tyres around Anglesey i could get in the high 1.05s as i've done mid 6s on second hand, harder compound F3 tyres.

Jez, i thought you bought the ex Chris Lewis car and i had JL's car???

Chris, maybe you should do the mono round as well if you aren't racing elsewhere. Also are there stickier tyres than the 9903 9906 Club F3 ones we have as our softer compound in F4?
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