TCR UK 2022 - Page 8

coffinpilot · 3 Aug 2022, 15:54 (Ref:4121699)

Entry list out, 20 cars.
I was told Depper and Joyce would be back. But theyre not.
Wonder if some are realising this is a bit more than club racing yet?

antnee · 4 Aug 2022, 10:54 (Ref:4121767)

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Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Entry list out, 20 cars.
I was told Depper and Joyce would be back. But theyre not.
Wonder if some are realising this is a bit more than club racing yet?

I think the penny might be dropping for a few. Speaking to a good friend (who is looking at buying a/some TCR car(s), we think that a lot of drivers/teams aren't doing all of the usual maintenance required of items like sequential gearboxes. That is the real difference in running costs between a club racing and a national/international spec series.

tux · 6 Aug 2022, 18:23 (Ref:4121987)

Some racing happened, it was good. Good times. Ok?

Northern Monkey · 6 Aug 2022, 20:21 (Ref:4122001)

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Originally Posted by tux

Some racing happened, it was good. Good times. Ok?

Or maybe not good times if you check out the race two result....

antnee · 8 Aug 2022, 07:10 (Ref:4122187)

Unfortunately the starting grid camera hadn't quite panned round enough to show the lights so it is hard to see who did jump start. Good close racing throughout though, I think the championship will go down to the final race.

Evantra · 26 Aug 2022, 11:36 (Ref:4123734)

https://twitter.com/tcruk_series/sta...636450304?s=21

Back up to 25 cars with a couple new entries.

fergus_r · 29 Aug 2022, 10:41 (Ref:4124140)

22 qualified today at Donington.

Evantra · 29 Aug 2022, 16:17 (Ref:4124195)

Very action packed today! Still seems to be a lot of issues with reliability.

Smiley has a 3 point lead going into the finale at the end of October (!)

Evantra · 30 Aug 2022, 16:27 (Ref:4124323)

Wilmot looses his win for a boost infringement. Ley penalised for contact with Shepard / Smith.

Smiley & Smith tied on points with the amended results.

antnee · 31 Aug 2022, 14:51 (Ref:4124393)

The drop scores are really playing against Smith - he has had a real good season with 4 podiums, finished every race and lowest finish of 7th.

Evantra · 7 Sep 2022, 11:32 (Ref:4125211)

The Newshams have listed the Cupra for sale, so either they are dropping out or have a replacement lined up.

Adamcas87 · 7 Sep 2022, 13:14 (Ref:4125225)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

The Newshams have listed the Cupra for sale, so either they are dropping out or have a replacement lined up.

Quite a few have the Tonks and Hawkins Cupras are up for sale as is Isaac Smiths VW and Max Hart Hyundai, think both will be upgrading next year, not sure on hart he has struggled for budget towards end of season

Evantra · 7 Sep 2022, 13:47 (Ref:4125227)

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Originally Posted by Adamcas87

Quite a few have the Tonks and Hawkins Cupras are up for sale as is Isaac Smiths VW and Max Hart Hyundai, think both will be upgrading next year, not sure on hart he has struggled for budget towards end of season

Interesting. So many are struggling with reliability.

I reckon a few will jump ship and look at different series, given the problems they've had this year and cost of a new(er) TCR car.

Adamcas87 · 7 Sep 2022, 14:33 (Ref:4125232)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Interesting. So many are struggling with reliability.

I reckon a few will jump ship and look at different series, given the problems they've had this year and cost of a new(er) TCR car.

Speaking with some people involved they reckon some teams are not properly keeping up with the general upkeep of the cars hence why there’s been a fair few issues at most races and some are realising that the series is no longer a club style championship and is getting a lot more serious

Evantra · 7 Sep 2022, 14:52 (Ref:4125234)

Wilmot switches to Honda.

https://twitter.com/tcruk_series/sta...465619458?s=21

auroan · 7 Sep 2022, 22:09 (Ref:4125256)

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Originally Posted by Adamcas87

Speaking with some people involved they reckon some teams are not properly keeping up with the general upkeep of the cars hence why there’s been a fair few issues at most races and some are realising that the series is no longer a club style championship and is getting a lot more serious

Yup. How anyone thinks cars originally costing over 100k with such complicated electronics and engines could ever be run on club level budgets is beyond me.

It's like buying a Lambo and running it on 85ron supermarket fuel and linglong tyres.

antnee · 8 Sep 2022, 06:42 (Ref:4125276)

There should be a lot of new machinery on the grid for next year.

Evantra · 8 Sep 2022, 14:04 (Ref:4125312)

Seems Max Hart has had enough.

https://bit.ly/3RIajaa

Definitely one of the better drivers, hope he finds himself a competitive seat somewhere.

SSmith · 8 Sep 2022, 15:20 (Ref:4125322)

It seems like every single car on the grid has had some reliability woes this year which is not a good look for the series. I hope, moving to 2023, that we see some newer chassis/models. The issue I guess is that if budgets go up with people realising the cost of maintaining TCR cars, and buying newer ones from Europe, you end up being not a million miles away from BTCC budgets which is unsustainable for an ostensibly 'Club' racing series.

tux · 9 Sep 2022, 16:22 (Ref:4125436)

Does make you wonder what teams must do in the other series compared to the UK because reliability seems very different.

redshoes · 9 Sep 2022, 16:29 (Ref:4125437)

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Originally Posted by tux

Does make you wonder what teams must do in the other series compared to the UK because reliability seems very different.

I did wonder that myself. Are the teams in other series using non-standard parts with longer life? I seem to recall a few years when one of the cars that normally ran in Britcar/750MC had to run as a TCT entry as it was TCR car but not fully TCR approved spec.

AnnoyedMoose · 9 Sep 2022, 16:42 (Ref:4125439)

Is it perhaps the case that some teams are cutting the maintenance schedules (nut and bolt checks, crack tests, load tests etc) and not lifeing components properly so they can make more money from the pay drivers? Just a theory but I've read many people saying that is one of the big differences between the top and bottom teams in BTCC.

auroan · 10 Sep 2022, 23:47 (Ref:4125594)

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Originally Posted by tux

Does make you wonder what teams must do in the other series compared to the UK because reliability seems very different.

They follow the manufacturers service procedures and time libes m, while not skimping parts quality etc. Plus they don't run parts past there expected life... unlike a few of the teams in TCR UK

auroan · 10 Sep 2022, 23:48 (Ref:4125596)

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Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Is it perhaps the case that some teams are cutting the maintenance schedules (nut and bolt checks, crack tests, load tests etc) and not lifeing components properly so they can make more money from the pay drivers? Just a theory but I've read many people saying that is one of the big differences between the top and bottom teams in BTCC.

Yup it's exactly that. After speaking to a couple of people in the paddock.

antnee · 10 Oct 2022, 15:15 (Ref:4129736)

TCR UK going to be with BRSCC for next year as the headline act for their meetings.

Provisional calendar

April 8/9 Snetterton 300
May 6/7 Croft
June 10 Oulton Park – Island
July 22/23 Knockhill
August 19/20 Silverstone – National
September 9/10 Donington Park – National
October 21/22 Brands Hatch – Indy

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