sports 1000

[qaz]

is it a waste of time? They turn up but never seem to make it further than the paddock.

[ss_collins]

thats a bit unfair I think. Lets see how many get to race on Saturady (sunday?)

[kickstart]

What happened to all the Sports 1000 at Mallory ?

[ss_collins]

there wasn't a sports 1000 race at mallory

[qaz]

thought they were part of allcomers race. therefore QED!!

[ss_collins]

I only saw two sports 1000s in the paddock - a private ADR and a special - the lack of a works ADR suggests that it wasn't an 'official' sports 1 event

[Ian Sowman]

Well, the published results described it as a 'Sports 1000 and Allcomers race'...

[ss_collins]

so they do...

[andy97]

2 Sports 1000's tested at Mallory on the wednesday preceding the 750MC meeting but were on their trailiers before the end. As far as I am aware, no Sports 1000's took part in the closed wheel allcomers race.

[Ian Sowman]

No, but they tried to qualify. At least one of them crashed.

[kickstart]

Are the sports 1000's out at Silverstone this weekend ? They look to me like an attractive reasonably quick sports car which don't cost a fortune - they deserve to suceed although they probably should race within an established formula unless/until they have built up their numbers to justify their own race.

[ss_collins]

Yes I agree with kickstart - this series could be mega

http://www.racedayimages.co.uk/2004/...1000/index.htm

looking at these pics there series would look great and certainly be entertaining - I know of 3 ADRs that were not there (Silvers works car, Icoburns and the Fujitsu car). Then theres the Scholar 983S (raced throughout last season but got bashed rather in testing a few months ago I think hasn't been repaired yet)And Farrington SP24/7 (was on show at NEC but company too busy to race it)

that would make a 12 car grid if they all turned up - not a fantstic size but reasonable for only its second year. Stick in a brace of radical 1100's and maybe use the MR2 challenge as a second GT esque class and bingo - a great looking race series

[qaz]

believe there have been lots of problems sorting them out so think it will be long time before full grids,so theyll have to run with another formula (750mc)
Im not trying to knock Adrian for trying something knew cos i think the car is stunning to look at pity its not reliable.

[ss_collins]

I'm in error - there is no Sports 1000 race at Silverstone!

[jonno]

The sports 1000 are now running in the allcomers at silverstone.
This is a great series and it is a shame that there is a perception of unreliability. I have owned my car since april and my most major problem has been driving it into a wall (more of a driver reliability issue !). I have had one clutch problem now resolved and a gearbox quirk but I understand that all race cars are prone to breakages. The great thing about the ADR is that chaps like me who are novice both in driving and mechanical ability can strip the vehicle in a matter of hours and effect repairs themselves. It is really well designed for this purpose. ADR engineering are very helpful indeed and probably get a call from me daily as I ask for advice but they are always ready to assist - even opening the factory at 2100hrs on a saturday to accommodate my damaged car after an incident.
I think it is still early days and that as more cars appear (quite a few are still in build) the championship will take off, it would be good if we could race with the 750 boys as I suspect novices like me could learn a great deal from the more experienced drivers.....

[kickstart]

Welcome to 10/10th Jonno - Are you out at Silverstone this weekend ?

[jonno]

Thanks for the welcome,

I am out on Saturday for the allcomers, only my second race so a bit daunting. If you are there feel free to come over & say hello, red ADR no 42.

[Dan Friel]

It would be really good to get this going properly! There are a few cars about, and almost a healthly grid at Cadwell earlier in the year - but lots broke down.

I hope the 750MC patience doesn't wear thin, otherwise people will lose lots of money.

I'm looking forward to Silverstone this weekend, although may only be there on Sunday.

[ss_collins]

I've been weighing up buying one for a while now - and I've yet to make a descision - next year is it a new big snorty engine in my vee and Euro races or a Sports 1000 (NOT an ADR - nothing wrong with them I just fancy being different)

[Dan Friel]

I still don't understand why they don't combine the F750 and S1000 grids?? Is it resistance from the F750 drivers? And is it my imagination, or are F750 more relaible now they have Fiat engines?

[kickstart]

It seems a little odd to me why the 750MC don't combine the S1000 and F750, maybe someone will enlighten us. The F750 could do with a few more competitors and this seems like the obvious route but maybe the performance between the two cars is unequal ?

[darvi]

It's tricky. As you say, the 750 grids are down (while people are converting to Fiats) and the Sports 1000 cars need to race, so it seems like a no brainer. Except, that the 750 guys are battling hard for a championship and the Sports 1000 guys are typically novice drivers in faster cars. The feeling is that this could be a recipe for disaster (or dangerous). Having said all that, the mixed race at Brands went OK (albeit with a 10 sec gap between the two grids).

I think the 750 guys are sticking their heads in the sand and not wanting to wake up and smell the coffee. It would be a shame to see two good club racing series go down the pan.

The Fiat engine has introduced a level of reliability and cost effectiveness that the Reliant never had, making 750 even cheaper and eliminating the reliability and hassle issues that came with the Reliant. Being a standard engine, it also cuts through the need to have mega years of experience with the engine (in fact, you can get a competitive Fiat ready to race for £200 including buying the engine). What the formula needs is chassis kits or plans so that is easier to get involved.

Meanwhile, they should combine the two series to keep them both fit and healthy.

[ss_collins]

Indeed - the club must amalgamate the two maybe they should just say the drivers can like it or lump it.

[Red Dog]

I don't think it's as simple as 'like it or lump it' The 750 drivers are resistant. S1000's are potentially capable of outperforming the 750's who are currently racing for outright race wins. They don't want to relinquish that.

When s1000 was announced it lured several 750 drivers away with the promise of reliabilty and a bit more power. This was just as the Reliant engine was to be superceded, so the timing was unfortunate to say the least.

The s1000's have been struggling with the new car / new driver teething problems very badly, but that is a normal part of racing. Mostly new drivers and all new or newly converted cars. It takes a lot of experience to be both quick and reliable and only time will fix all that.

ss collins you are championing the s1000 cause which needs all the support it can get, but what they really need is race entries so what's stopping you...?! The Vees don't need anyone else right now, reserves at several meetings, I believe.

[qaz]

looked at the sports 1000 website and reading the comments there it is apparent they are concerned about low grids and fear the series may be axed if problem continues