SPA SUMMER CLASSIC

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

I have to say that on the occasions when I've shared a grid with Caterhams, in either the 944 or the 75, its been scary - not only do you have to lower your mirrors to give you a chance of seeing the little blighters, but their lines (? ) into and through corners are so different from ours that its potentially dangerous.........

I agree Richard. When i drove a tin top i had a bad expetience in a wet race at and another in a dry race at Anglesey. Now i race a Caterham, i really dont want to share a race with “heavy metal”, which is a shame as i miss out on some nice races, like Spa.

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by andy97

I agree Richard. When i drove a tin top i had a bad experience in a wet race at and another in a dry race at Anglesey. Now i race a Caterham, i really dont want to share a race with “heavy metal”, which is a shame as i miss out on some nice races, like Spa.

Me too, in the RoR at Anglesey a few years back - but I wouldn't call it a bad experience. In the ZS180, approaching turn 1 in the dark, in the pouring rain, catching a Caterham that from his position I took to be taking the wide wet line, so I went through on the inside knowing that with FWD I had better grip and control. Followed by a sound akin to running over an empty Coke can as it bounced off my offside door trying to execute a late apex. Had a friendly chat later but he did try to tell me I had no right to attempt to overtake him....

Andy, do I remember correctly that last year the Sevens had their own race with CSCC at Spa? Was the turnout insufficient to continue that?

[andy97]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

Andy, do I remember correctly that last year the Sevens had their own race with CSCC at Spa? Was the turnout insufficient to continue that?

CSCC have had a Magnificent 7s only race at Spa in the past, but not for a couple of years I think. A combination of needing very large entries and pressure on the timetable meant that it no longer happens and the Mag 7 cars run in the CSCC Inter series race.

The European 7 series, run by McMillan Motorsport do run at Spa, but they run to specific eligibility criteria and don't want the "7esque Libre" contingent from CSCC infecting them (and winning!). A shame really as that could be a very impressive grid.

[Mike Bell]

So there’s 2 CSCC races, one (Inter Series) that includes Magnificent 7s and another that doesn’t. What is eligible for the latter?

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

So there’s 2 CSCC races, one (Inter Series) that includes Magnificent 7s and another that doesn’t. What is eligible for the latter?

Swinging Sixties and Classic K, i think.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by andy97

Swinging Sixties and Classic K, i think.

That would make sense. So only race for Lanky would be the Inter Series one or Ardennes Challenge.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

That would make sense. So only race for Lanky would be the Inter Series one or Ardennes Challenge.

“Lanky”??

[Peter Mallett]

Richard.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by andy97

“Lanky”??

Apologies, I meant our Richard Murtha. It's a 'delta-ism….'

[andy97]

Thanks Mike and Peter for the clarification. I was trying desperately to remember whether Mike had a Lanchester race car!!!!

Anyway, yes, Richard M has a choice of the CSCC Inter Series Race or the Ardennes Challenge in his Alfa 75. Unless he builds one of his Giulias in to a race car...,which, of course, he should!!!

[Gerard C]

Andy, can you imagine an entry list with a special dédicace to tenthers? I'd love to read, Delta, Dinger, Lanky, Terry, Midge, MGDave', Viva, Andy and… Mohammed! A Spa, des pilotes qui ont la frite!

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Andy, can you imagine an entry list with a special dédicace to tenthers? I'd love to read, Delta, Dinger, Lanky, Terry, Midge, MGDave', Viva, Andy and… Mohammed! A Spa, des pilotes qui ont la frite!

The 360mrc 6 hour race at Snetterton was badically a race set up by trnthers and raced in by tenthers, but sadly it was not well supported.

[Terence Bower]

Originally Posted by andy97

The 360mrc 6 hour race at Snetterton was badically a race set up by trnthers and raced in by tenthers, but sadly it was not well supported.

Despite all those saying "yes, we'll do it" etc etc. Still, the upside of it gave me something to do. Negotiating circuit hire fee's, dates etc. Then of course safety car duties in due course. Didn't have access to a suitable race car then.

[andy97]

I enjoyed my two races in it.

[midgetman]

Me too. Two races, two finishes.

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[eamonn ledwidge]

Me too, but with respect it's a bit off the Spa Ardennes Challenge topic.

I have entered the Challenge for 10 years now and it's been running for at least 15, despite someone's post of FB yesterday announcing that it's a new race!. It has run to several configurations, 1hr, 1 1/2 hrs and more recently 2 x 40 mins races over 2 days - that seems to suit most entrants.

The Challenge attracts an eclectic grid, it's great value for money and any dedicated clubman racer considering it should just get their entries in and give it a try.

[Terence Bower]

Originally Posted by eamonn ledwidge

Me too, but with respect it's a bit off the Spa Ardennes Challenge topic.

I have entered the Challenge for 10 years now and it's been running for at least 15, despite someone's post of FB yesterday announcing that it's a new race!. It has run to several configurations, 1hr, 1 1/2 hrs and more recently 2 x 40 mins races over 2 days - that seems to suit most entrants.

The Challenge attracts an eclectic grid, it's great value for money and any dedicated clubman racer considering it should just get their entries in and give it a try.

Hmmmmm🤔

[andy97]

Originally Posted by eamonn ledwidge

A quick look at the regulations will tell you the cars which are eligible and welcome. The modern Caterhams were driving many of the traditionalists away.

I have looked at the regs Eamonn, and what jumps out at me is that the Crossle is the only specialist Sports-Racer on the list. At least the Caterham is a road car.

I am just teasing. You know i love the 9S. Just cant affird one.
As i have said, i have no wish to race in a mixed grid, but some do, and not all Caterhams are modern. Restrict to h patten boxes, pre Signa/ Duratec and original induction and you have cars the same technology as others on the grid, but as slippery as a brick.
It just seems odd that one particular car is excluded when it could comply with the regs to the same extent as others that are allowed.

[eamonn ledwidge]

Originally Posted by andy97

I have looked at the regs Eamonn, and what jumps out at me is that the Crossle is the only specialist Sports-Racer on the list. At least the Caterham is a road car.

I am just teasing. You know i love the 9S. Just cant affird one.
As i have said, i have no wish to race in a mixed grid, but some do, and not all Caterhams are modern. Restrict to h patten boxes, pre Signa/ Duratec and original induction and you have cars the same technology as others on the grid, but as slippery as a brick.
It just seems odd that one particular car is excluded when it could comply with the regs to the same extent as others that are allowed.

Andy, the list of eligible cars is not comprehensive and over the years there have been many other sports racers in the Challenge. Only reason the Crossle is mentioned is that we go as a group under the CRDC banner, simples.

Guess what, mine is road registered - 66 WW 507. !!!!!

[andy97]

Fair enough, Eamonn

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by eamonn ledwidge

Me too, but with respect it's a bit off the Spa Ardennes Challenge topic.

I have entered the Challenge for 10 years now and it's been running for at least 15, despite someone's post of FB yesterday announcing that it's a new race!. It has run to several configurations, 1hr, 1 1/2 hrs and more recently 2 x 40 mins races over 2 days - that seems to suit most entrants.

The Challenge attracts an eclectic grid, it's great value for money and any dedicated clubman racer considering it should just get their entries in and give it a try.

Completely agree; not having an FIA HTP car and therefore not being able to get a race on the Nordschleife, Spa is one of the must-do's of my year.

[Podd37]

I had a chat to CSCC and they very graciously said they would let me in to their Interseries race. The 2 race per year rule does apply but as I had raced with them before (albeit many years ago) and therefore, they knew my driving standards were up to scratch, they would look favourably on me doing Spa if I could perhaps do another round too? So its either CSCC or Ardennes.....we will have to toss a coin! Either way, boat and tunnel booked, Spa here we come.

[Gerard C]

We're still working on the Bertone to enter the Ardennes if acceptable but what is weird for a car from here is to be fully compliant with no HTP! Unless many of our "friends"… Wont be competitive with Falkens but we have many on the shelf.

[SamBinfield]

Had an email the other day from Equipe Classic Racing announcing that they will have a grid(s?) at the Summer Classic:




"We have confirmed two races at Spa as part of the Spa Summer Classic weekend on June 29/30. Although we are obviously sorry to see the Silverstone GP circuit go, Spa is a tremendous circuit and this is a great opportunity for us.


We will have a 30-minute qualifying and two 40-minute put stop races on this most iconic of tracks for 750 Euros



All entries will be accepted."




Not entirely clear yet if this is for GTS, Pre '63, or both combined, but have asked for clarification.

[Mike Bell]

Thanks Sam. The races are presumably to replace those at cancelled MGLive?