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Old 2 Aug 2017, 21:44 (Ref:3757040)   #2866
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NASCAR V8s are nowadays purpose built engines, but they still detonate at least one or two a race even today.
True ... but they race them at almost full throttle the whole race and make (I hear) like 900 bhp.
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Old 2 Aug 2017, 21:58 (Ref:3757043)   #2867
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800/850 nowadays. Still north of 9k rpm.
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Old 2 Aug 2017, 22:39 (Ref:3757053)   #2868
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And they sound terrific north of 9K, too, imho.

Staying on/off topic.

I looked up the LMP Panoz motors in Mike's corner and I never realized that they were a Zytek based V8s, serviced by Elan. I had always thought Robert Yates had something to do with it...
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Old 2 Aug 2017, 22:49 (Ref:3757061)   #2869
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Ganassi, it seems, would like to go DPi racing ...

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/14287...sa-dpi-program





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Ganassi, it seems, would like to go DPi racing ...

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/14287...sa-dpi-program





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On the latter mentioning of Dodge, i was thinking how cool it would be to have a Detroit Battle. If BOTH Ford and Chip are interested, maybe there's a chance....
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Ganassi, it seems, would like to go DPi racing ...

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/14287...sa-dpi-program





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That is one of those articles where the headline says one thing and the story says another

Basically- yeh it'd be nice but not now and ford arent interested currently

OR they are but don't want to show their hand yet


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Old 3 Aug 2017, 00:57 (Ref:3757087)   #2872
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And they sound terrific north of 9K, too, imho.

Staying on/off topic.

I looked up the LMP Panoz motors in Mike's corner and I never realized that they were a Zytek based V8s, serviced by Elan. I had always thought Robert Yates had something to do with it...
The 6 liter pushrod V8 were Ford small block based and were built at various times by Roush, Yates, or by Panoz themselves (Elan's engine decision was basically founded by ex-Roush and Yates guys). Gibson made the EFI systems for it.

The 4 liter DOHC engine, though it was initially intended to be badged as a Ford engine (it never actually was), was designed by Gibson (then known as Zytek) and was based on their Formula 3000 engine that they designed with Judd, which was based on the Cosworth DFV.

Strangely, Gibson still retails the engine as the ZB/ZG408, as well as it's reduced capacity (3.4 ZG348) and enlarged (4.5 ZJ458) versions on their site. Even the 4.2 GK428 LMP2 engine probably owes much of it's heritage to the older Zytek V8s
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And they sound terrific north of 9K, too, imho.

Staying on/off topic.

I looked up the LMP Panoz motors in Mike's corner and I never realized that they were a Zytek based V8s, serviced by Elan. I had always thought Robert Yates had something to do with it...
That was the LMP07. The LMP-1 had a Elan Ford V8.

I think Yates built the V8s in R&S and others.
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HPD President Art St Cyr pleased with first Acura ARX-05 DPi test.
The car had the first shakedown at Paul Ricard last week.

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/14288...tes-first-test
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Old 3 Aug 2017, 08:32 (Ref:3757137)   #2875
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You seem to be forgetting that when it was used in Super GT Nissan were getting over 500bhp out of the same engine, and dyno'd it to well over 800bhp.

NASCAR V8s are nowadays purpose built engines, but they still detonate at least one or two a race even today.

You're right, but repeat, in GT500 nismo tuners weren't aimed to make it last for >24H or keep it as cheap as possible to maintain.
That's why during early years in lmp2, 500hp weren't achievable.

As other users already reported, nascar engines run flat out at 9000rpm... it's quite reasonable that can't have an endurance style lifespan.
Corvette GTE engine runs up to 6500rpm, unrestricted could achieve >800hp too @ >8500rpm. For sure won't last more than 6 hours.
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That is one of those articles where the headline says one thing and the story says another

Basically- yeh it'd be nice but not now and ford arent interested currently

OR they are but don't want to show their hand yet


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I read it as: we're committed to Ford in GTE until the end of the project in 2019, after that we're more than ready to go DPi. If that would be with Ford I wouldn't be surprised if the project is set up and testing done during 2019 with a Rolex 2020 debut.

Long ways to go.
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And as we've seen in motorsports, one season can lead to a night and day difference. Waiting a year in a half to see what could happen is an eternity in the motorsport world. Ford have plenty of time to make their decision.
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But that does not take away from the 'stated' interest by CGR in DPi, period! All of you that are trying to beat this info to the ground is just ..... wonky! Yes it may never come to fruition, but at this point they would certainly like to play in that sand box with the other big kids.







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Yeah this isn't like the Bentley one, where someone once seen a Bentley logo in the US and did 2+2=943. Ganassi have said DPi is interesting to them - being tied into the Ford contract doesn't really change that.

Also worth saying that if DPi is interesting to all these teams, then even if not everything comes true, it proves it is an interesting concept. It means it is an attractive series and set of regulations to run with, and that's important.
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Also worth saying that if DPi is interesting to all these teams, then even if not everything comes true, it proves it is an interesting concept. It means it is an attractive series and set of regulations to run with, and that's important.
And Chip, like Roger, doesn't race with his own money so if he thinks it's a good idea it means he thinks he can find a backer to run a full pro team.
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