[FIA GT] GT4 - The future...?

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by wdave0

I'm sure the 6 is better for racing for some time to com - ages of development behind it but the point is that the car will only represent the street version for 1 year, how liberal will GT4 rules be? It also would diminish the PR value to Porsche.

GT4 is not in the shape to turn away cars, one of the mainstays of the European series is still the BMW E90 M3, which has been out of production for a bit.

Also, Porsche are not in this for marketing value, but to sell cars to customers.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

GT4 is not in the shape to turn away cars, one of the mainstays of the European series is still the BMW E90 M3, which has been out of production for a bit.

Also, Porsche are not in this for marketing value, but to sell cars to customers.

There will be a M4 GT4 available in 2016.

[Mark0994]

Originally Posted by FIRE

There will be a M4 GT4 available in 2016.

Genuine BMW or this?
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=22277

[FIRE]

The Ekris one.

[merak1974]

Originally Posted by FIRE

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...s-in-2016.html

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...-maserati.html

Good news for GT4.

Agree! Excellent news indeed

[FIRE]

Ekris BMW M4 GT4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu34vvIgoRU

[rich07]

Now this looks interesting-the Reiter Young Stars Programme

Young drivers in KTM X-Bow GT4s as part of the European GT4 championship

– Every driver pairing is supported by a European university

– Best male and female drivers step up automatically to Blancpain Sprint Cup 2017

– All KTM X-Bow GT are prepared identically by Reiter Engineering

– Sensational low season budget: 59,000 € / +VAT per driver

Provisional calendar:

21-24 April, Monza, supporting the Blancpain Endurance Series

12-15 May, Pau, supporting the Grand Prix de Pau

07-10 July, Spa-Francorchamps, supporting the British GT Championship

22-25 September, Hungaroring, supporting DTM

06-09 October, Zandvoort, standalone grand finale

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/0...programme.html

[FIRE]

Hans Reiter about KTM X-Bow GT4:

...

“We have sold around 25 cars with 15 already delivered and yes, financially that programme is now very much our focus.


“GT4 is definitely beginning to take off, maybe within 2-3 years at the current rate we’ll see it close in overall numbers to the current level of GT3 in the market.

“Not all of the KTMs are for racing, it’s proved to be popular with some customers for trackdays and testing, and we are selling cars in Europe, in Asia and in the USA too. I do though want to find a customer i the UK, British GT looks a very strong market for GT4.

“We have sold seven into the USA with four entered in the Pirelli World Challenge (ANSA Motorsport’s pair of XBows pictured above).”

...

“The car went well in the Dubai 24 Hours (below), one set of pads, no discs, the KTM uses Lamborghini brakes on a car that is 250 kilos lighter.

“It’s light on tyres too, in Dubai we were able to go five hours at competitive pace on a single set!”

€139,000 will buy the KTM in GT4 spec with a full carbon tub, sequential shift and all the trimmings.

...

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/0...s-success.html


Problems for Porsche Cayman GT4:

...
Polite enquiries to the Championship elicited a response that the cars were late in arriving with customers and a discreet use of the editorial contacts book revealed that customers have now been told that their originally communicated February delivery dates have slipped to late April, after the opening round of the British Championship and just a week before Round 2!
...
There are concerns too amongst some that the original spec of the car appears to have changed from that touted in initial sales conversations with a sizeable ‘upgrades’ package now priced at a five figure sum including some items that early customers maintain they were told were part of the standard car.

And to cap it all DSC understands that the Porsche will not have completed the homologation process for the Cayman even on delivery with the cars then racing under a waiver from the race organisers.
...

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/0...gt-season.html

[FIRE]

Apparently Mercedes and BMW are both working on GT4 cars. Source: Journalist Nelson Valkenburg.

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Apparently Mercedes and BMW are both working on GT4 cars. Source: Journalist Nelson Valkenburg.

Curious as to what their model choices would be

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Curious as to what their model choices would be

I wonder if they'd go for a shared platform - if not bodyshape - between GT4 and TCR.

[FIRE]

TCR has to be 5 door hatch or 4 door saloon.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Apparently Mercedes and BMW are both working on GT4 cars. Source: Journalist Nelson Valkenburg.

There's already a GT4 spec M4 albeit by a private tuner so can BMW produce its own version?

Not unless it's a different model but I struggle to think what they could use except for the i8 but I highly doubt they'd use that.

[Speed-King]

There's a rumored BMW M2 CSL - and more interestingly it's supposedly a direct competitor to the Cayman GT4. All that however, on the road-going side. There aren't many indications for a race version so far.

http://onthegrid.de/motorsport-allge...che-cayman-gt4

I'm more puzzled by the Merc comment. They had that CLA concept a few years ago, but that's too much of a tourer and all that ever turned into was a one make series in Brazil with European customer programs coming to nought.

[tux]

All but confirmed on Radio Le Mans during the Sebring 12 hours that there will be an Audi GT4 at some point from the factory this year.

[Starfish Primer]

They already have the TT Cup and the Rotek TT RS , they can use them as baseline.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

There's a rumored BMW M2 CSL - and more interestingly it's supposedly a direct competitor to the Cayman GT4. All that however, on the road-going side. There aren't many indications for a race version so far.

http://onthegrid.de/motorsport-allge...che-cayman-gt4

I'm more puzzled by the Merc comment. They had that CLA concept a few years ago, but that's too much of a tourer and all that ever turned into was a one make series in Brazil with European customer programs coming to nought.

M2 makes sense. Sort of upgraded M235i Cup car.

The Merc CLA is only available for people who enter the Brazilian series.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by tux

All but confirmed on Radio Le Mans during the Sebring 12 hours that there will be an Audi GT4 at some point from the factory this year.

I heard that and I'm thinking-don't you already have a TT for that? Wasn't the TT cup car being looked at for GT4 by Audi? I'm sure I saw that somewhere

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by rich07

I heard that and I'm thinking-don't you already have a TT for that? Wasn't the TT cup car being looked at for GT4 by Audi? I'm sure I saw that somewhere

Didn't they take the TT to balance of performance tests??

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Didn't they take the TT to balance of performance tests??

I'm sure they did that recently so maybe that's the base for the new car.

[Rcz]

I hope IMSA Weather tech series gets a GT4 class. I like to see a X bow at the 12hours of Sebring.

[FIRE]

Jorg van Ommen built a GT4 version of the TT, couple years later it was Audi themself. If I remember well the Van Ommen car was only used on Nordschleife and never entered in other series. The official Audi one never raced.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by tux

All but confirmed on Radio Le Mans during the Sebring 12 hours that there will be an Audi GT4 at some point from the factory this year.

They produced a GT4 version of the last type of TT with a 2.5 litre 5 cylinder front wheel drive drive train but I don't think they sold any customer cars for some reason.

http://www.carpages.co.uk/audi/audi-tt-gt4-29-11-10.asp

[Mitchi_S]

I've not found this anywhere else, so please forgive me for the source being in german and not in english.

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...10841&Itemid=1

Apparently McLaren wants to built a GT4? I'm sorry, but what?

[Madkart]

Originally Posted by Mitchi_S

I've not found this anywhere else, so please forgive me for the source being in german and not in english.

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...10841&Itemid=1

Apparently McLaren wants to built a GT4? I'm sorry, but what?

LOL someone's late to the party!