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Old 18 Aug 2019, 20:57 (Ref:3923322)   #106
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Another penalty for Plato (on Smiley again!)
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Old 18 Aug 2019, 20:57 (Ref:3923323)   #107
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Old 18 Aug 2019, 21:23 (Ref:3923326)   #108
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Another penalty for Plato (on Smiley again!)
Starting from the back next time out then?
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Old 18 Aug 2019, 21:26 (Ref:3923327)   #109
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what happens if gets a 4th strike ?
4th reprimand is a one race ban.
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Old 18 Aug 2019, 21:26 (Ref:3923328)   #110
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well it does have an advanatge


they don't have to bother about qualy setup , just race setups on all practice and qualy


wasn't Cooky the last naughty guy to start from back a few seasons ago ? if i remember it went even furthe rand he had a 1 race ban
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Old 18 Aug 2019, 21:35 (Ref:3923331)   #111
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3 reprimands is a strike. 3 strikes is a back of the grid. So we’ve got a while yet before we’re invited to a race again with some free tickets I think.



‘Strike’ system revision

As with previously, some on-track driving offences will continue to receive ‘reprimands’. From 2019, three reprimands will now constitute a ‘Strike’.

A Strike will also be automatically applied for a more serious offence; as an example, when a driver is found to be wholly to blame in an incident that causes another driver to be unable to finish the race. In this case the recipient of the Strike will also receive the additional penalty of a minimum 20 seconds added to their race time.

The current Strike tally-system remains as is, with a third Strike resulting in a driver being demoted to the back of the grid, a fourth resulting in a race ban and so on. A reprimand or Strike remains recorded against a driver for 12 months, as is currently the case.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 05:53 (Ref:3923355)   #112
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well it does have an advanatge


they don't have to bother about qualy setup , just race setups on all practice and qualy


wasn't Cooky the last naughty guy to start from back a few seasons ago ? if i remember it went even furthe rand he had a 1 race ban
Yep during his second stint at MG where he had developed a habit of hitting things.

Worth pointing out the ban is 1 race, not 1 weekend so the team will not field a sub whilst it's being served (if it happened)
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 07:09 (Ref:3923357)   #113
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He did pull a massively well judged overtake in R3 though and looked very much on the ball the whole of R3. And the team stuck a lot of yellow tape on the pit wall for R2, Mr Magoo could have lined up perfectly with that. Maybe that's the answer...

One question: given there was a good while between pulling up on the grid and race start, why didn't the team get a radio message to JP to back up? Surely one of them must have been aware he was out of place?
Same marker they used in R1 from what I could see on the TV. Difference was that he was on the right side of the grid so only had to line up directly with the marker rather than having to do it by angles. Think they need to set the marker up further back in future to counteract car positioning difference. Better to be two foot behind the line than one inch over it.

Not 100% sure but I don't think they are allowed to reverse on the grid. Certainly not when the green flag has been waved at the back and, with the TV coverage delays that JP mentioned, by the time the team saw the pictures it probably would have been too late. They would only have been able to see on the TV like the rest of us as they aren't allowed on the pit wall at the start.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 07:41 (Ref:3923362)   #114
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I suspect you're right on all counts Johno.

If they're not allowed to reverse (and assuming they are stationery before the lights) then that would be a bit silly in my books.

I did notice Dan Cam was (to my eye) a good 2 foot behind the P2 spot for R3. So either it is tricky or he was being particularly cautious bearing in mind JPs punishment.

Grids. Grrrr. I prefer our American cousins rolling starts...
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 08:02 (Ref:3923365)   #115
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It is the driver's responsibility to correctly position the car on the grid, no one else's.
Don't do it, face the consequences.

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Old 19 Aug 2019, 08:07 (Ref:3923366)   #116
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I'd argue it's the teams as a whole - hence markers on the wall for drivers to look at. Other series do similar things.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 09:54 (Ref:3923373)   #117
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Cue PMR installing a parking cam for JP...
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 10:03 (Ref:3923374)   #118
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Cue PMR installing a parking cam for JP...
A tweet during the green flag lap, and then when he gets 1,000 likes he knows he is in position. (it helps as an ego boost at the same time and gives positive reinforcement that he is in the right and everyone else is wrong).
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 11:59 (Ref:3923380)   #119
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For the good of TD's sponsors, I'm glad they got the win.

Got excited for a minute about the championship with Cook and Cammish closing in, but then remembered the next event is a BMW/Subaru whitewash.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 12:09 (Ref:3923381)   #120
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So did BMW just have a bad day or had there been other TOCA shenanigans behind the scenes?
Oliphant qualified in the ten and finished 5th, 4th and 7th, one of his better weekends. Turkington and Jordan had high ballast in qualifying which put them in the mid-field.
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