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Old 6 Mar 2005, 16:45 (Ref:1244696)   #1
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OK - I'll be quick to admit it - I am very impressed with the competitiveness of the ex Jaguar team. It really is a massive change of fortune for them, and quite hard to believe, but the results don't lie - they were pretty decent. In a less jumbled-up race they won't be quite so well off, I guess, but they look better than they have any right to, so all credit it to them.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 16:51 (Ref:1244700)   #2
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Well done Glen - my humblie pie is back in the freezer - for the moment

Happy for DC, he looks very relaxed and despite is past doubters (me included I might add) he drove well.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 16:51 (Ref:1244701)   #3
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How sweet was it that DC beat both of the McLarens

He also did a very good job of keeping a straight face and not sticking any fingers up at RD in the post race interview
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1244715)   #4
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Hey ST, I've just served myself up a small piece of that pie - I'd like to see a "standard" race before I think about eating the whole thing. Webber was clearly stuck behind DC for quite a while, and probably could have gone faster - but it is a race and that's what is all about... all-in-all, massively impressive and very hard to understand - it just isn't possible on paper to gain that much speed more or less overnight.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 17:14 (Ref:1244718)   #5
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I had predicted them to be worse off than the old Jag...and DC to flounder....
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 17:17 (Ref:1244725)   #6
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Hey ST, I've just served myself up a small piece of that pie - I'd like to see a "standard" race before I think about eating the whole thing. Webber was clearly stuck behind DC for quite a while, and probably could have gone faster - but it is a race and that's what is all about... all-in-all, massively impressive and very hard to understand - it just isn't possible on paper to gain that much speed more or less overnight.
But it is done all the time, Webber was in fifth place during the race last year after a dry qual at Melbourne. The problem for Jag came mid year, lack of resources saw chassis developement slow. Also you do remember Webber beating the Williams last year. RBR was impressive but they are just following form, they still need to prove they can be relatively as fast near the end of the year.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 17:24 (Ref:1244736)   #7
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What surprises me I guess is that they have managed to build even through all the team ownership turmoil. All through the winter, and in the latter part of last season in fact, the other teams have had a great chance and a lot more money to get on with moving ahead of RBR, but they haven't done so, not to anything like the degree I expected.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 17:31 (Ref:1244750)   #8
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If you look at the fastest laps of the race, they were a second behind the Renaults, and behind the Ferraris, Williams, Macs, and even one of the Toyotas... But they were consistent on a heavy fuel load... Well done!!
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Well I was in much the same boat as Glen......I thought RBR would be awful.

But this new car is genuinely good and they obviously have a great bunch of lads who kept their heads down through all the turmoil. Very admirable.

However, they will get a reality check in Malaysia and i think they'll settle down to a role of top ten regular and regular points contender with the odd standout result like today.

I still don't agree with a lot of things that have gone on at RBR either and I think we have to wait until next season before we can really judge the changes. For me, the current performance is the combination of a talented jaguar team that was on the rise and the long term security of Red Bull ownership.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 17:41 (Ref:1244765)   #10
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I was predicting about 10 points for them pre-season, and it's fair to say that they're lucky to have got so many today. But it wasn't entirely a fluke, they generally showed mroe pace than BAR, Toyota and Sauber, and should be good enough to scoop up points when a few of the top cars drop out or circumstances work out for them as they did today. Unlike last year's Jaguar, the car doesn't seem to flatter to decieve in terms of single lap pace, they've managed to hold the car's performance for longer.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 18:09 (Ref:1244794)   #11
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I don't think it was luck at all. Coulthard showed pace throughout the weekend proving everyone, (NOT ME) who said he was past it, wrong...

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Old 6 Mar 2005, 18:17 (Ref:1244804)   #12
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I'm not a great fan of F1 as it is so often processional ,but thought todays effort was exciting and unpredictable.
The great unknown was the weather and if there had been a steady weather pattern through qualifying,and the usual cars ended on the poles,I wonder what the outcome would have been then?
It looks to be an intersting season and I actually look forward to next race.
great to see Red Bull/Jaguar/Ford doing so well and good luck to them.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1244835)   #13
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Well, DC beat both McLarens.
Klien is did a lot better than he did in his Jag.
The car was quite quick through all of practice and quali.
It seems to be quite reliable and easy to drive.
IMO, it looks great (......and now there will be a flood of disagreements for that I know)

There a bunch of positive things from my point of view. I hope they continue to do well. 3rd in constructors and there is room for more improvment.

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Old 6 Mar 2005, 18:54 (Ref:1244846)   #14
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DC drove a good race qualifing obviously helped!! but ther ex jags were faster with there new power unit, but if they had started lower down the grid im not quite sure they would have been able to keep up with williams if it was the other way round. but good show.
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Old 6 Mar 2005, 19:13 (Ref:1244873)   #15
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The weather had alot to do with it but hey, that's racing. It was good to see & I hope DC stays in top half
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