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20 Jan 2021, 14:00 (Ref:4030253)
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The JR Inspired Pre War Racing Car Discussion
We have a new toy this year
Lea Francais Hyper
One of the 1928 TT cars.
It’s going to be interesting as can’t think of anyone who’s raced one properly since Tom Delaney
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20 Jan 2021, 14:18 (Ref:4030256)
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Just googled that. Otherwise known as S Type with a supercharged Meadows engine. Driven by Kaye Don in the 1928 Ulster TT. Looks good. Is the Meadows engine the same as used in the Frazer Nash?
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20 Jan 2021, 14:35 (Ref:4030263)
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More or less the same!
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20 Jan 2021, 14:46 (Ref:4030268)
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As you know I quite like the smaller cars from that era. Hope it goes as well as it looks.
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22 Jan 2021, 08:32 (Ref:4030572)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john ruston
We have a new toy this year
Lea Francais Hyper
One of the 1928 TT cars.
It’s going to be interesting as can’t think of anyone who’s raced one properly since Tom Delaney
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I guess the blown 1500 shares the same 1496 bottom end as the 'underhead cam' TC from the later engine, like the one I restored for the Arnott-LaeF.
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22 Jan 2021, 11:52 (Ref:4030607)
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Assuming its Lea Francis, I found this:
https://patrimoineautomobile.com/lea-francis-1928/ Probably inaccurate, but nice recent pics.
Meadows engine for others too, like HRG:
http://www.antiqbrocdelatour.com/Les...38-id3647.html
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"J'vais le renvoyer tout droit à la maison mère, le gugusse de Montauban, au terminus des prétentieux! Moi quand on m'en fait trop, j'correctionne plus, j'dynamite, j'disperse et j'ventile." M. Audiard.
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22 Jan 2021, 15:12 (Ref:4030688)
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It made sporty and exclusive cars for wealthy “gentlemen drivers” who thought it was too “common” to drive Rolls or Bentleys…
I thought it was 'undesirable to waft like a barge or drive like a lorry' It was part of my induction with JR/Pace 
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22 Jan 2021, 15:19 (Ref:4030691)
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At that time there were a number of companies, all building small cars, F Nash, MG, LeaF etc. They formed the backbone of UK motorsport. For the time and limited technology I've always thought them quite special.
Methinks we should move these posts to a separate thread so we can discuss them more fully.
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25 Jan 2021, 15:26 (Ref:4031135)
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And here is the thread.
Coincidentally, just saw a tweet about the Bugatti "Lorry" remark, it then showed a pic of the Royale which really was big!
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In the current circumstances, we need to do all we can to help local businesses. With this in mind I suggest we all schedule our visits to the pub so we can keep the 2m social distancing and whilst there get completely slamied for two hours before handing over to the next shift.
It probably won't stop the virus but nobody would care.
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25 Jan 2021, 19:00 (Ref:4031163)
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You have to spot a real one to know how big this machine is! Between impressive and useless I'd say. Bugatti engines found many different applications, like trains or boats, lorries as you mention, for what I remember now.
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25 Jan 2021, 19:18 (Ref:4031166)
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Quote:
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Bugatti engines found many different applications, like trains or boats, lorries as you mention, for what I remember now.
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Don't forget the lovely Bugatti Aeroplane.
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25 Jan 2021, 19:21 (Ref:4031168)
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Right, I forgot it! Thanks RB. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti-De_Monge_100P
Thanks to Peter, I've just learned that only the Royale had a "mascotte" ornement on the bonnet… or hood!
https://www.bugatti.com/fr/media/new...oyale-type-41/
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"J'vais le renvoyer tout droit à la maison mère, le gugusse de Montauban, au terminus des prétentieux! Moi quand on m'en fait trop, j'correctionne plus, j'dynamite, j'disperse et j'ventile." M. Audiard.
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26 Jan 2021, 09:42 (Ref:4031250)
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I did not realize that the aeroplane had survived or that it was being/had been recreated. Pity it has been wrecked now. I wonder how the 2 Hyabusa engines compared to the 2 T50 engines in the original plane?
I think the emblems on the Royale were carved Ivory.
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26 Jan 2021, 10:57 (Ref:4031258)
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Doesn't seem to be ivory, more likely silver or look alike. Design was due to Rembrandt Bugatti, according to wiki, Ettore brother. The elephant is the symbol of strength while remaining rather quite… La force tranquille en quelque sorte.
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"J'vais le renvoyer tout droit à la maison mère, le gugusse de Montauban, au terminus des prétentieux! Moi quand on m'en fait trop, j'correctionne plus, j'dynamite, j'disperse et j'ventile." M. Audiard.
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26 Jan 2021, 11:05 (Ref:4031260)
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Dont know what kind of emblems/ mascottes are sought after from your side of the Channel, but in France it seems the Lalique ones make a lot of money now. I'm not sure but it seems some are still produced. Some could be lighted, electricity provided by the dynamo, and you could even chose the color! Patented by Lalique.
Spirit of the Wind: https://www.musee-lalique.com/boucho...ateur-victoire
You'll find other famous ones like The Archer or La Libellule (dragonfly).
https://www.musee-lalique.com/boucho...ande-libellule
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