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And it appears the medium and soft tires can be fickle, a few made them work well late and a few were better early. The top 10 is split with the front runners on mediums and 6-10 on softs. It looks like it's a multi class race with 1-5 running well, 6-13 running somewhat together and the rest spread out.
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3 Nov 2019, 11:47 (Ref:3938292)
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Well done Bottas, what a lap he did there. Lewis down in 5th, he needs to keep out of trouble at the start. Very messy between him and Max
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3 Nov 2019, 15:03 (Ref:3938316)
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Check this out, you don't see them whinging about bumps!
Is it possible for the drivers to point out there are bumps and that this is a challenge without them being branded and softies and not like the hard driver's of the past? Or should they keep their mouths shut so we don't even know?
I'm not saying no one is whinging, but most of what I've seen has been measured.
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3 Nov 2019, 17:49 (Ref:3938331)
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Check this out, you don't see them whinging about bumps!
Is it possible for the drivers to point out there are bumps and that this is a challenge without them being branded and softies and not like the hard driver's of the past? Or should they keep their mouths shut so we don't even know?
I'm not saying no one is whinging, but most of what I've seen has been measured.
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I think some of it is the new common whinging about tracks not being perfectly smooth so when actual bumps become a problem it just sounds the same. It sounds like this round is actually a problem for some drivers but others have found a way around it or dealt with the bumps. I think some of it is also the modern car, the engineers know exactly what the car "needs" and when the track isn't perfect the problems are much worse than in the past.
But I think that same thing applies to car design and why there isn't the insane variety of the past. They've had say 30 years of "modern" F1 to keep refining the car and we've hit that peak. And the rules don't help. I don't think even the new rules will shake things up that much. I've been wrong before and will be again and often but it doesn't seem like teams are that worried about the changes yet.
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3 Nov 2019, 18:35 (Ref:3938334)
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I think some of it is the new common whinging about tracks not being perfectly smooth so when actual bumps become a problem it just sounds the same. It sounds like this round is actually a problem for some drivers but others have found a way around it or dealt with the bumps. I think some of it is also the modern car, the engineers know exactly what the car "needs" and when the track isn't perfect the problems are much worse than in the past.
But I think that same thing applies to car design and why there isn't the insane variety of the past. They've had say 30 years of "modern" F1 to keep refining the car and we've hit that peak. And the rules don't help. I don't think even the new rules will shake things up that much. I've been wrong before and will be again and often but it doesn't seem like teams are that worried about the changes yet.
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I wouldn't call the variety in the past insane, though there were some insane designs. It was how designers back then, as they do now, interpreted the rules. However, in the past the rules governing F1 car design were not as rigid, as they now and therefore there was much more room for experimentation in both car and engine design.
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3 Nov 2019, 18:39 (Ref:3938335)
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The camera shot from inside the crowd at T1 braking area was awesome at showing the scale of elevation chane up tp T1, and then back down on exit!
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3 Nov 2019, 19:00 (Ref:3938340)
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It was a nice shot.
SKY seem to be injecting some good hype to the grid walk. Getting excited for the start because of it. 
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3 Nov 2019, 19:15 (Ref:3938342)
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A clean start as Hamilton gets up to forth. A slight coming together with Albon and Sainz..
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3 Nov 2019, 19:17 (Ref:3938344)
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Ferrari can't even do a formation lap correctly anymore. Absolutely were not ready for the race start.
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3 Nov 2019, 19:24 (Ref:3938345)
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Leclerc is going to Plan B.
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3 Nov 2019, 19:26 (Ref:3938346)
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Leclerc is going to Plan B.
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Do Ferrari ever just run Plan A? Can we just make Plan B the new Plan A?
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3 Nov 2019, 19:28 (Ref:3938347)
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Do Ferrari ever just run Plan A? Can we just make Plan B the new Plan A?
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3 Nov 2019, 19:28 (Ref:3938348)
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Quote:
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Check this out, you don't see them whinging about bumps!
Is it possible for the drivers to point out there are bumps and that this is a challenge without them being branded and softies and not like the hard driver's of the past? Or should they keep their mouths shut so we don't even know?
I'm not saying no one is whinging, but most of what I've seen has been measured.
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Vettel might be soon.
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3 Nov 2019, 19:29 (Ref:3938349)
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Vettel out, with a right rear suspension failure.
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3 Nov 2019, 19:37 (Ref:3938350)
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Not sure Max putting the hards on will get him back into this race.
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