|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
10 Jun 2017, 22:27 (Ref:3740075) | #5476 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,829
|
Porsche for sure were screwing around with the fuel filler necks on their cars in 2015. I don't know if they've continued to do that or if the ACO closed those loopholes.
|
||
|
11 Jun 2017, 07:03 (Ref:3740155) | #5477 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 6,171
|
I'm pretty sure it's been curtailed, for all their faults the ACO do close loopholes [that they don't like] rather quickly and with minimal fuss.
The current difference is mostly down to the superhero-in-Porsche-overalls on the wheel changes, swinging 20+kg of wheel & tyre in each arm like they're toys! |
||
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing. |
12 Jun 2017, 18:26 (Ref:3740626) | #5478 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,409
|
From dsc's Monday scrutineering, Conway thinks they can better the lap record in qualifying.
Quote:
|
||
|
13 Jun 2017, 02:22 (Ref:3740725) | #5479 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 11,416
|
Have they also established a minimum length for the fuel hose? I see a lot of them with a large droop over the fuelers shoulders. Remember Penske shortened the fuel hose and moved the rig to the very legal edge in the ALMS days to basically drop the fuel in the tank.
|
|
|
13 Jun 2017, 05:52 (Ref:3740750) | #5480 | ||
Rookie
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 68
|
I believe the working area in the pit lane has been increased by 0.50 metres, consequently refueling hoses have increased by 0.50 metres to 4.00 metres long.
|
||
|
13 Jun 2017, 07:23 (Ref:3740770) | #5481 | ||
Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 47
|
Quote:
|
||
|
13 Jun 2017, 21:54 (Ref:3741018) | #5482 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,222
|
Rob Leupen thinks Toyota could go 3:15 high or 3:16 low in Qualifying!!!!
That would be Insane I hope porsche could do something about it... http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/l...toyotas-reach/ |
||
|
13 Jun 2017, 22:40 (Ref:3741030) | #5483 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 10,962
|
I'd love to see a new record. This year is feeling a little flat. A new record could be just what it needs.
|
|
|
13 Jun 2017, 23:25 (Ref:3741037) | #5484 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,409
|
As a Toyota fan, I think this year is great with the 3 cars, especially one that is setting lap records. Yeah, too bad Audi isn't there but the Audi vs. Peugeot and Audi vs. Toyota matchups were good too. But it'd be awesome to say Toyota has the fastest car ever at Le Mans
|
|
|
13 Jun 2017, 23:30 (Ref:3741038) | #5485 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 10,962
|
I think it's a few things combined. 2 v 3 is never fun. I was hoping Porsche would go for 3 cars. Having only 1 P1 privateer kills that bit. LMP2 is a bit of a joke with only ORECA looking worth having, and losing the Ferrari 458 glorious sound now they're committed to current gen cars in Am is a shame. Overall every class feels like a step down over last year to me.
Hopefully some good racing and some lap records will sort that out. |
|
|
14 Jun 2017, 05:06 (Ref:3741078) | #5486 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,409
|
I don't like the fact Oreca is dominating p2, but I think the race is going to be different. I'm hoping. As for Toyota vs Porsche, I feel it'll be close like the wec races. Le Mans is long and weather will come into play. Even if it's not competitive and Toyota hold a sizable advantage, I think it'll be nice to see them at least get the win after so many tries. And if Porsche is somehow dominant, that's what they deserve because they made their car that way. P2 is a bop class supposedly, so an Oreca white-wash is going to be lame. But lets see if ByKolles is faster
|
|
|
14 Jun 2017, 06:25 (Ref:3741091) | #5487 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,829
|
The reason why BOP hasn't been applied to LMP2 is that everyone's got the same Gibson 4.2 liter V8 in their cars and the sprint races in the ELMS have been close. It's at LM where there's a gap.
Also, weather doesn't seem to be a big factor right now, as Saturday and Sunday are forecast to be sunny and hot. Also, could we see, if the weather does hold out, the distance record be broken this weekend? Only reason it didn't fall in 2015 was because of late race rain, and we might have gotten close last year if the first 50 minutes of the race wasn't run behind a pace car. |
||
|
14 Jun 2017, 22:32 (Ref:3741455) | #5488 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 972
|
so... toyota are not using the 7th gear at all, as far as i could tell from the onboard telemetry.
|
|
|
14 Jun 2017, 23:05 (Ref:3741461) | #5489 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,795
|
||
|
14 Jun 2017, 23:38 (Ref:3741464) | #5490 | |
Racer
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 128
|
||
|
15 Jun 2017, 01:14 (Ref:3741476) | #5491 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,829
|
Toyota only used a 7 speed gearbox back when they had the V8.
|
||
|
15 Jun 2017, 01:29 (Ref:3741482) | #5492 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,409
|
They've always had only have 6 forward gears iirc.
|
|
|
15 Jun 2017, 08:04 (Ref:3741544) | #5493 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,600
|
Interesting TS050 rear damper mounting and rear suspension via Kota Sera blog.
http://serakota.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2017-06-14-1 |
|
|
15 Jun 2017, 09:16 (Ref:3741551) | #5494 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,920
|
that's always been unclear.
TS030 had 6 speeds, TS040 that very likely used the same gearbox of TS030 used to have 7 speeds according to official statements and onboard telemetry or 6 according to rumors. TS050 has 6 speeds, also because has a brand new gearbox. Is not excluded that TS050 gb maybe has a seventh speed as well, but simply isn't used. |
|
|
15 Jun 2017, 11:35 (Ref:3741582) | #5495 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 4,755
|
Quote:
What was the conclusion with the blown diffuser talk other than the obvious which was no action by FIA? Is this why Porsche is grumpy? Last edited by Articus; 15 Jun 2017 at 11:41. |
||
|
15 Jun 2017, 13:28 (Ref:3741632) | #5496 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,600
|
Is a skeleton subframe behind the gearbox made of the machined titanium?
Or 3D-printing titanium? |
|
|
15 Jun 2017, 18:23 (Ref:3741811) | #5497 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 6,171
|
I think we can safely say the car is quick!
Outright lap record for Kobayashi, 3:14.791. |
||
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing. |
15 Jun 2017, 18:52 (Ref:3741836) | #5498 | |
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 342
|
I believe that's the second quickest lap around Le Mans EVER.
|
|
|
15 Jun 2017, 19:17 (Ref:3741846) | #5499 | ||
14th
1% Club
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,812
|
The fastest average ever. Slower time than a 917 round a shorter circuit.
|
||
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously. |
15 Jun 2017, 19:23 (Ref:3741860) | #5500 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,829
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Audi LMP1 Discussion | gwyllion | ACO Regulated Series | 11685 | 16 Feb 2017 10:42 |
Nissan LMP1 Discussion | Gingers4Justice | Sportscar & GT Racing | 5568 | 17 Feb 2016 23:22 |
Strakka LMP1 discussion | Pontlieue | Sportscar & GT Racing | 56 | 12 Jul 2015 19:12 |
The never ending Toyota return to Le Mans (LMP1) Saga | The Badger | ACO Regulated Series | 6844 | 8 Jan 2014 02:19 |
How about a LMP1 Pro & LMP1 Privateer class | Holt | Sportscar & GT Racing | 35 | 6 Jun 2012 13:44 |