2010 TOURING CAR MASTERS

[GTRMagic]

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2010 TOURING CAR MASTERS CALENDAR

11-14 March Clipsal 500, SA
14-16 May Winton, VIC
18-20 June Darwin, NT
7-10 October Bathurst, NSW
5-7 November Symmons Plains, TAS
19-21 November Sandown, VIC
3-5 December Homebush, NSW
*Note: date and venue of remaining round TBA

There seems no mention of the title sponsor...

[Alan52]

Two interesting points1 Homebush round replaces GT Championship on that program. 2No round listed for Muscle Car Masters.Although there is a TBA event could it be that series administrators are after "financial consideration" from the ARDC.In my opinion the Muscle Car Masters would be a much poorer event without the Touring Car Masters class.Also mentioned in the press release was there will be 6 half hour TV shows from 6 of the V8 rounds in line with the sort of coverage the Mini Challenge has had this year.Biante announced a few weeks ago they weren't continuing naming rights sponsorship in 2010.

[johnh875]

Regarding car/driver movements, John Bowe has bought Drew Marget's Mustang, as Marget is retiring. The Camaro Bowe raced has been sold, not sure who to though.

Anybody know the current status of Jim Richards' AMC Javelin? I heard something that indicated it was intended to use a Dodge V8 (Nascar based) - why would this be accepted? After all, Chrysler didn't take over AMC until 1987. Why wouldn't they be running an AMC V8, whether 304ci or 340/390/401.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by johnh875

Anybody know the current status of Jim Richards' AMC Javelin? I heard something that indicated it was intended to use a Dodge V8 (Nascar based) - why would this be accepted? After all, Chrysler didn't take over AMC until 1987. Why wouldn't they be running an AMC V8, whether 304ci or 340/390/401.

Mr Skaife has to drive something doesnt he?

[Crash Test]

From what I can gather, the largely QLD based Trans Am Championship will be racing at the Muscle Car Masters next year. A worthy replacement if the TCMs don't front

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Crash Test

From what I can gather, the largely QLD based Trans Am Championship will be racing at the Muscle Car Masters next year. A worthy replacement if the TCMs don't front

I thought the Trans Am cars were the 2010 replacement for the New Zealand Central Muscle Cars.I really think that the Masters meeting needs the "star quality" that only the Touring Car Masters series can provide.I hope the ARDC is not going to go down the path of diminishing what has been a great event.

[racer69]

Its not solely an ARDC event, Chevron Publishing Group & the ARDC have an equal stake in the event.

[mildura1963]

Is there much difference between the Trans-Am cars & the TCM cars other than the age of the cars?

[Prancing Wombat]

Originally Posted by johnh875

Regarding car/driver movements, John Bowe has bought Drew Marget's Mustang, as Marget is retiring. The Camaro Bowe raced has been sold, not sure who to though.

Bowe Camaro is now owned by Bill Pye, Porsche racer.

[Green Hornet]

There will be a mega amount of Group N cars at the Muscle Car Masters and at least they are not like hot rods in TCM.

[Rob Bailey]

Originally Posted by Prancing Wombat

Bowe Camaro is now owned by Bill Pye, Porsche racer.

Great news,with Bill driving it will remain a front running car.

[nafe!]

Originally Posted by Green Hornet

There will be a mega amount of Group N cars at the Muscle Car Masters and at least they are not like hot rods in TCM.

Bob Janes Camaro and the like could be called hot rods by normal historic standards. Yes they have a few freedoms which they didnt in the past but its very similar to the Australian touring car championship (not production car championship) of old.

The fans love them, they attract pro drivers and make for stunning racing.

As much as i enjoy historics, most of the drivers are amatuers or just to afraid to damage their machines.

TCM is the best of both worlds, old cars with pro drivers.

[TOOTHFAIRY]

What a great year 2010 will be for the TCM Boys, good coverage on TV, some new cars being built, some new and old faces, coming on board, the managment team more committed than ever, all makes for very entertaining racing, and a higher profile for this style of racing. Remember this catagory is 2nd most popular with the V8SC spectators, so bring on the racing guys.

[xrystl]

Originally Posted by johnh875

Regarding car/driver movements, John Bowe has bought Drew Marget's Mustang, as Marget is retiring. The Camaro Bowe raced has been sold, not sure who to though.

Anybody know the current status of Jim Richards' AMC Javelin? I heard something that indicated it was intended to use a Dodge V8 (Nascar based) - why would this be accepted? After all, Chrysler didn't take over AMC until 1987. Why wouldn't they be running an AMC V8, whether 304ci or 340/390/401.

May find that the old AMC engines no longer exist as it's just too long ago since they were made and they were far and few between even in the States , had a mate who restored a Rambler Classic back in the eighties and he couldn't get engine bits for it from anywhere (no internet in those days) so ended up replacing the engine with a Falcon six .

[TOOTHFAIRY]

It is allowed to use a 360 V8, with alloy heads, of which a submission re the heads is being considered by the board as we speak, these heads will also be allowed on the V8 Chargers., although they have to run a 340 V8,in the Charger. The Javelin is completed, body wise and is in the paint shop, being finished off. So its well down the track.

[mildura1963]

Nice to see the amount of variety in the TCM.

[Juarez Jed]

Originally Posted by xrystl

May find that the old AMC engines no longer exist as it's just too long ago since they were made and they were far and few between even in the States , had a mate who restored a Rambler Classic back in the eighties and he couldn't get engine bits for it from anywhere (no internet in those days) so ended up replacing the engine with a Falcon six .

There was a place in Mascot in Sydney (Mascot Motors) that sold new Matadors and even the big NASCAR style Matador X right up until the late seventies. He then sold used Ramblers and Jeeps from the same location well into the eighties.
In the nineties he moved down to Taren Point. I think he's gone from there now, but he's still on the net. He had a lot of old AMC stock though.
The Matador X was a car and a half, it made the Javelin look like a shopping cart !

[Juarez Jed]

Just looked him up........he's in Nowra now (NSW South Coast). He mainly dismantles Jeeps but has tons of Rambler parts.

[Rob Bailey]

Originally Posted by TOOTHFAIRY

It is allowed to use a 360 V8, with alloy heads, of which a submission re the heads is being considered by the board as we speak, these heads will also be allowed on the V8 Chargers., although they have to run a 340 V8,in the Charger. The Javelin is completed, body wise and is in the paint shop, being finished off. So its well down the track.

whats happening with the future of the Falcon Sprint?

[johnh875]

Originally Posted by xrystl

May find that the old AMC engines no longer exist as it's just too long ago since they were made and they were far and few between even in the States , had a mate who restored a Rambler Classic back in the eighties and he couldn't get engine bits for it from anywhere (no internet in those days) so ended up replacing the engine with a Falcon six .

The AMC 360 V8 was used right up to the end of production of the Jeep Wagoneer/Cherokee, in 1991. Yes harder & more costly to find good bits and expertise for, but that is what happens when you own an unusual model. I bet the Javelins running in the historic TransAm series still run AMC motors, and locally Ray Sprague has his AMX running in hillclimbs with what seems to be a lot of grunt. I find the approach disappointing, but that is just my opinion of course. If wanting to run a Dodge engine, why not run a Dodge body as well? A Challenger would add just as much to the series.

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by johnh875

The AMC 360 V8 was used right up to the end of production of the Jeep Wagoneer/Cherokee, in 1991. Yes harder & more costly to find good bits and expertise for, but that is what happens when you own an unusual model. I bet the Javelins running in the historic TransAm series still run AMC motors, and locally Ray Sprague has his AMX running in hillclimbs with what seems to be a lot of grunt. I find the approach disappointing, but that is just my opinion of course. If wanting to run a Dodge engine, why not run a Dodge body as well? A Challenger would add just as much to the series.

The TCM is about making the cars both affordable and reliable.

For the die-hards, Historics are the go.

For everything else, TCM.

[Scott75]

Just so you know guys, JB's Mustang will will have the new livery completed in early to mid January... I will upload my official illustration and pics of the real car once its completed...

Stay tuned...

[johnh875]

Camaroz, I know where you are coming from & just putting in my 2c on a discussion forum. Even though I disagree with that aspect, I welcome the variety for the series.

Of course the Javelin would not be eligible for Grp N historics because they weren't raced here (that I am aware of), nor were Challengers for that matter. I wonder if there were any eligible cars that we don't see in the Nc category - mind you that is another topic.

[Rob Bailey]

Originally Posted by johnh875

Camaroz, I know where you are coming from & just putting in my 2c on a discussion forum. Even though I disagree with that aspect, I welcome the variety for the series.

Of course the Javelin would not be eligible for Grp N historics because they weren't raced here (that I am aware of), nor were Challengers for that matter. I wonder if there were any eligible cars that we don't see in the Nc category - mind you that is another topic.

GTA Alfa's and 67/8 390 ci Mustang I think BJ's pre Trans/Am ran one once or twice.

[Juarez Jed]

[QUOTE=johnh875;2603065]Camaroz, I know where you are coming from & just putting in my 2c on a discussion forum. Even though I disagree with that aspect, I welcome the variety for the series.


I'm with you john875.
If you can't source an AMC engine that is affordable and reliable then maybe you shouldn't run a Javelin ? I know the Masters are more flexible than Nc but I didn't realise it was like sports sedans and you can run other manufacturers motors. I agree with you that if you want to run a Mopar then you should run a Dodge, Chrysler or Plymouth.