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Nah they'll probably just give EC a 3rd round :P
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Wouldn't surprise me and promoted by TC himself; with a bit of help from Mark Skaife.
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15 Dec 2003, 08:44 (Ref:811998) | #28 | ||
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They should really have another round at Symmons Plains like they did a few years ago. After all, the new champion is Tasmanian...
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Totally agree with a round at Symmons Plains would be good to see them back their. Just take the extra Eastern Creek round.
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15 Dec 2003, 09:43 (Ref:812028) | #30 | ||
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The Historic Tourers becoming better to watch than the Sports Sedans or V8 Supercars if you prefer to call them that.
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15 Dec 2003, 09:58 (Ref:812034) | #31 | ||
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Different makes, different models, different engine capacities are just some of the ingredients for historic tourers. Why can't it be the same now.
I think a lot of the spectators now are too young to remember the GT.HO, XU.1 and Charger battles in the top class then there were the Alfas, Capris, Escorts that were not that far behind. Lets hope GTP lives up to it's promise and we have that sort of racing back again. |
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TC is a cockhead in many respects, and his views on taking the series to China, the constant street circuit push and attitude towards other categories I do disagree with. But someone said anyone could promote it like he has; well not true really. It was him and IMG who had the vision and took the risk in 1996 (when the series was in a shambles I might add) to make it into what it is today. Along the way it hasn't exactly been smooth sailing, but the permier Australian category has never been more popular and it should be appreciated for what it is... My significant moments: - V8/2Litre split - Parity debate - Lack of passing/domination by one team - Introduction of AVESCO/IMG and the rise of TC - Clipsal 500 - Franchise system - TWR 'umbrella' - '99 Bathurst introduction to the championship - Holden domination/Ford performance issues - Influx of younger drivers following Lowndes |
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Another significant moment since 1993 was that it took until 1995 before the entire championship was solely a V8 only two-make series..
In 1993, The original rules for the post-Group A era called for a 3 race format, 1 for the outright class (which included V8s), 1 for 2 Litre cars (though alot of them were 1600cc cars), then a combined final race. That was the way it worked at Amaroo, but after that the 2 Litre class was abit thin, so the program went back to two combined races, with the 2 Litre championship run within the Shell Series, with the 2 Litre championship going down to the wire at Oran Park between Peter Doulman and John Smith, with Doulman coming out on top. And as for the outright class, it was BMW who made the biggest committment, running four Amatil backed factory 2.5 ltr M3's for Tony Longhurst, John Blanchard, Paul Morris and Geoff Full, a bigger committment in terms of a factory effort than Ford or Holden, whom the series was created for. Hell, even the ancient 6 cylinder BMW 635csi (a 1985 vintage car) for the Gulson family made an appearance at Bathurst. The 2.5ltr DTM BMW's were banned after 1993 (and paritied out of it during 1993), adn the 2ltr cars and V8s split to run seperate championships, yet Steve Ellery still contested round 1 of the 1994 ATCC at Amaroo Park in a 2ltr Ford Sierra, the only non-V8 in the race, and the last time it happened. On a whole, the V8 formula was conceived in controversy, which has followed it the entire 11 years effectively. Last edited by racer69; 15 Dec 2003 at 12:16. |
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i would like to think lowndes vs. bowe at bathurst 1994 started a new era in the sport, for the better. before that it was a giant risk to put a young driver in a car.
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I wonder if Lowdnes has ever thanked Rickard Rydell for where his career has gone?
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A bit of a lucky break that certainly was but he sure hasn't wasted it.
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Maybe after ambrose has won the championship they can poor some money in to symonds plains is what people should be saying... because arn't the pits a bit inadequite?
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But they built a whole new pit facility in 1994, and relocated the whole front straight. They have had John Bowe racing in the series for years, and campaigning for help, yet they have done nothing, and really could you blame them? The pits aren't too bad, on a par with Wanneroo, wasn't it the corporate facilities that were the main problem.....oh and the rain.
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i thought it was a great track in the rain, we should have more 1st gear hairpins in the wet!
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haha yeah sorry, what ever it is I was under the impression it wasn't the series' fault.
But still, F1 has 2 German GPs...why can't we have our race back! And belive me, *everyone* would go up there to see it! (It'd be like the cricket when there is a decent match!) |
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