Who do you miss from F1?

Racer_kyle · 28 Mar 2006, 21:42 (Ref:1563755)

The one guy i miss from F1 has to be Eddie Jordan- Real character. Loved him.

BootsOntheSide · 28 Mar 2006, 21:46 (Ref:1563759)

Justin Wilson, as he didn't get a fair chance at Jaguar due to joining mid-season. Eddie is sadly missed as well, also some names from further back like Jean Alesi and Ken Tyrrell. Murray as well, but realistically you can understand why an 82-year-old would not thrive under the pressure of his job.

Sheila M · 28 Mar 2006, 21:49 (Ref:1563762)

Murray Walker. He made even the most boring of races sound interesting!

Then you could add Nigel Mansell, Senna, Piquet, Prost, Rosberg senior, Villeneuve senior ... or anyone prior to the current lot who could actually RACE!

Dixie Flatline · 28 Mar 2006, 21:57 (Ref:1563768)

As (a) the Grand Prix is currently in Australia and (b) his name is being mentioned in dispatches as a possible new entrant in 2008, I'm nominating Stoddy. He at least made the behind-the-scenes politicking of Formula One interesting!

DKGandBH · 28 Mar 2006, 22:14 (Ref:1563786)

Not really a Who but...

Overtaking and Controlled sideways action
Innovation
Forza Minardi (and no PS's new team WILL NOT be the Minardi of Old)

As to the Who...

Grid Girls... Our telecast doesn't cover them ... :-(

DKGandBH

ASCII Man · 28 Mar 2006, 22:24 (Ref:1563788)

What:

Adelaide
Big slicks
Sparks
4 wheel drift
Low noses
Wide cars
Arrows

Who:

Murray Walker
Ayrton Senna
Thierry Boutsen
Jean Alesi

Mekola · 28 Mar 2006, 22:39 (Ref:1563803)

Juan Manuel Fangio. Not only for his majestic skills as a racing driver, but the Maestro did an important role for Argentinian motorsport, when helped to have the Argentinian GP back in F1 calendar many times.

Suze · 28 Mar 2006, 22:42 (Ref:1563807)

Hunt and Murray Walker straight off...but there's more

kipper · 28 Mar 2006, 23:10 (Ref:1563825)

I do miss big, slick tyres and drivers having to change gear manually. As for drivers, then I think drivers such as Alboreto, Alesi, Berger and Hakkinen all added to the sport. Also, Minardi when it was run by Giancarlo Minardi and featured Pierluigi Martini in the driver line up.

Dutton · 28 Mar 2006, 23:59 (Ref:1563850)

Well, I will limit myself to two.

What:

Manual gears

Who:

Mika Salo

Bluewolf · 29 Mar 2006, 00:45 (Ref:1563871)

I miss --
Senna -- perhaps the greatest of all time
Berger -- excellent driver, bright guy with a lot of personality and humor
Prost -- The consumate professional
Alesi -- Even though I was not an alesi fan, his natural ability should have garnered him a lot more than just one win

Dixie Flatline · 29 Mar 2006, 01:51 (Ref:1563889)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutton

Well, I will limit myself to two.

What:

Manual gears

Who:

Mika Salo

Why Mika Salo, just quietly?

Dutton · 29 Mar 2006, 02:24 (Ref:1563900)

He caught my interest in 1995, for I thought he did some pretty impressive stuff in the Tyrrell.

He continued to impress me, and, over time, the bits and bobs of his "personality", as portrayed by the media, dripped out and I liked that aspect too.

I think he was an excellent F1 driver whose results, IMHO, don't reflect his talent - and a nice guy too!

JeremySmith · 29 Mar 2006, 02:49 (Ref:1563907)

Who

Eddie Jordon.. nice person, very funny.
Mika Hakkinen lovely bloke, fantastic racer.
Jean Alesi...what a great natural talent!

What

Slick tyres.
12 lap, one hour qualifying.
Sparks.

Mosport67 · 29 Mar 2006, 03:09 (Ref:1563912)

Gilles Villeneuve not always pretty but always fast.

rocketracer · 29 Mar 2006, 03:36 (Ref:1563921)

yeah, fair call there dutton - remember when Mika Salo stepped into the ferrari in place of the broken Mschumi and outclassed irvine at hockenheim (watching as a horrified irvine fan as i was at that time

i miss Hans Heyer - ok so i didnt ever see him race but what an F1 story: http://www.f1rejects.com/drivers/heyer/biography.html

Seoigh · 29 Mar 2006, 03:50 (Ref:1563926)

Jim Clark...talent, modesty, and a loyal to his friends...tragically lost before his peak,I think. J. Stewart rates nearly as high in my book...at least 'we' still have him.

R59 · 29 Mar 2006, 04:41 (Ref:1563944)

What:
Any number of cylinders (especially 12, or even 16!)
full fuel tanks for racing (no refuelling - the racing is done on the track, not in the pits)
fat slicks
missed gears (manual gearboxes with clutch pedals)
ground effect

Who:
Edmund Jordan
Paul Stoddart
Ken Tyrrell
Giancarlo Minardi
Murray Walker

Of drivers still with us, there are not many that I'd like to see back in an F1 car to show that they really can do it, even though the machinery they had at the time was pants. Allan McNish is probably top of the list. If Johnny Herbert were a little younger, I'd like to see him back too, in a top flight car.

The list of those who have passed, topped by Clarke & Senna, but many more, including Bellof who was stunningly quick, but lost to a sportscar accident.

Of all of the things above, the one thing I'd love to see return to F1, which in my mind would fix many of the things wrong with it, is no refuelling, and let the drivers race on the track, not in the heads of the strategists on the pit wall. That also includes light fuel qualifying.

Rob.

Down F0rce · 29 Mar 2006, 11:08 (Ref:1564102)

I miss the characters that brought us real rivalries. Senna and Prost, Hill and Schumacher, Mansell and Senna... won't be seeing anything like them anytime soon.

Super Hans · 29 Mar 2006, 11:16 (Ref:1564111)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Down F0rce

I miss the characters that brought us real rivalries. Senna and Prost, Hill and Schumacher, Mansell and Senna... won't be seeing anything like them anytime soon.

Great close rivalries have been somewhat absent in recent years, primarily due to the outright dominance of Schumacher & Ferrari, but I think Raikkonen & Alonso's rivalry could develop in the coming seasons to match those you mentioned.

There is also a bit of a developing feud between Alonso & Valentino Rossi, so if Rossi makes his expected switch to four wheels, that may be one to keep your eye on.

speedbump · 29 Mar 2006, 12:36 (Ref:1564143)

The old Hockenheim
Austria A1

Hakkinnen
Irvine
Sennna
G Villeneuve

Slicks
No traction control
No launch control

dazbaz_99 · 29 Mar 2006, 12:55 (Ref:1564156)

Hmmm, I will probably go for:

Turbo's
Slick Goodyears
Cars with big rear tyres and small fronts
Sparks
Cars without all of todays electronic driver aids

I dont think we will see many of those returning in todays safety concious world.

dazbaz_99 · 29 Mar 2006, 12:57 (Ref:1564158)

I missed off something, V12's.

Suze · 29 Mar 2006, 14:28 (Ref:1564212)

Mm agree the rivalries...just been watching Senna v Prost / Alesi again, that was good...

SALEEN S7R · 29 Mar 2006, 14:41 (Ref:1564218)

Who:

Eddie Irvine - Very fast on his day and a funny guy, always had a lot to say and wasnt afraid of being contraversial.

Justin Wilson - Wasnt really given a fair shot with Jaguar, if he had been I feel he could still be in F1 now and doing a good job.

Mika Hakkinen - Very fast driver and a genuinely nice guy.

What:

V10's - The V8's are good, but the howl of the V10s were just so much better.

Slicks - Never really have liked the current grooved tyres that F1 is now stuck with.

No Traction Control - Without traction control I think mistakes would be punished much more and tyre choice and looking after the tyres would be much more important than it is now.

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