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Old 2 May 2018, 02:33 (Ref:3818773)   #1
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Order of Pit Bays

In Australian Supercars racing the order of Pit Bay allocation is that the top scoring team from the previous year takes up the last Pit Bay in pit lane, i.e. the one closest to the exit.

I recall reading recently the arguments as to why this Pit Bay is so important.

Then looking at the Baku GP on the weekend I was reminded that they use the complete opposite basis, the top team from previous year has the very first Pit Bay in pit road. This was evident when Hamilton stopped.

Why the difference in approaches?

Is one right and the other wrong?

For consideration
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Old 2 May 2018, 02:37 (Ref:3818774)   #2
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The theory is that they're less likely to be impeded on out exit. Although not always the case in reality.

Other things to consider, are bragging rights, and potentially greater brand exposure for team sponsors, depending on TV camera placement.
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Old 2 May 2018, 03:01 (Ref:3818777)   #3
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bigger field and slower speed along with longer pit stops mean there s a significant difference between the two

However if you are in the first pit bay and you are leading the race or close to the front you pit first and then all the slower cars trundle past and often they are still entering the pits when you have completed your pit stop thus causing a delay.

There are also advantages with practice and qualifying where you hit the track quicker and get to do extra lap(s) as sresult
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Old 2 May 2018, 03:50 (Ref:3818782)   #4
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Peckstar pretty much summed it up.

The only downside of being closer to the exit of pit lane is what we saw at Phillip Island and played out many times between SBR and HRT back in the Ambrose Skaife days.

If two enter pitlane nose to tail the car pitting closer to the exit risks being impeded by the car pitting closer to the entrance if the the pitstop times a roughly equal.

Why you may ask?

The car pitting closer to the exit may have to hesitate exiting his pit knowing that he risks impeding the car behind him. Entering the pit the cars can run nose to tail but exiting the pit the car closer to the exit cannot risk such a close margin by pulling in front of the second car.
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Old 2 May 2018, 05:02 (Ref:3818794)   #5
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Then looking at the Baku GP on the weekend I was reminded that they use the complete opposite basis, the top team from previous year has the very first Pit Bay in pit road. This was evident when Hamilton stopped.
Hi Terry, that might be true for Baku but in Melbourne Mercedes was the team nearest pit exit.

F1 allows the champion team to choose which end of pit lane it wants at each circuit and then the other teams are in championship order from the previous year.

At some tracks, being closer to pit entry is considered an advantage, at others the advantage is considered to be conferred at pit exit.

Supercars is a completely different situation - generally shorter & narrower pit lanes, more cars of a larger size with longer pit stops and much lower pit lane speed limits - all those things add up to a completely different situation.
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Old 7 May 2018, 11:04 (Ref:3820568)   #6
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Why the difference in approaches?

Is one right and the other wrong?
Because there are more safety cars in Australia, therefore it is advantageous to be in the last bay so you can drive straight out of your pit bay unimpeded.

Whereas if you are leading, then pit in the first bay, you may not be able to get out of your pit bay promptly as the rest of the field piles into the pitlane under safety car. Potentially losing many positions.
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Old 7 May 2018, 18:48 (Ref:3820631)   #7
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Remember as well refuelling - F1 teams can assume within a second how long their competitor is pitting for. Not the case in Supercars, so there is a distinct advantage in being in the first bay, watching what a competitor does, then reacting
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Remember as well refuelling - F1 teams can assume within a second how long their competitor is pitting for. Not the case in Supercars, so there is a distinct advantage in being in the first bay, watching what a competitor does, then reacting
It is a little easier to gauge the duration of an F1 stop given their lack of refuelling. Their strategy is more based on traffic and where they will rejoin. With the variation of fuel drops in V8's adds another variation, and a more time consuming one at that with refuelling taking much longer than tyres.
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Old 8 May 2018, 00:37 (Ref:3820704)   #9
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That coverage you get being at the top end of pitlane is gold too.

Every prac and qualifying session typically starts with a lowdown camera shot of the guys peeling out of the working lane and out of pitexit and what a nice change it is to see the noses of non-888 cars rolling out first.
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Old 8 May 2018, 01:04 (Ref:3820706)   #10
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Reckon We saw the advantage of pit lane spot one on the weekend when Scott jumped quite a few car in the pit lane under the safety car
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Old 8 May 2018, 01:22 (Ref:3820708)   #11
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Absolutely, any cars stuck in the fast lane are in the way if you aren't being serviced ahead of them
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Reckon We saw the advantage of pit lane spot one on the weekend when Scott jumped quite a few car in the pit lane under the safety car
yes definitely an advantage in those circumstances.
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