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Old 28 Sep 2017, 23:17 (Ref:3770408)   #26
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Shame about the Cadillacs. I haven't been able to watch the last few seasons thanks to their terrible streaming/media deal but I've always wanted to, mainly because of that car (and the NSX this season). I like the series that actually have unique GT3 entries instead of the same-y feeling mix of R8s and Huracans and AMG GTs and so on that every series has a half-dozen or more of.

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No more Caddies and Realtime potentially dropping down to TCR... might be time to go back to mixed GT3 & GT4 fields?
This, please.

Honestly, when they first split the classes up it killed a portion of my interest for the series. It was a good idea at places like St. Pete and Long Beach, but the rest of the schedule didn't need it.

It would really add some excitement back into the series and make it a bit unique again.

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DSC are suggesting PWC really want some Callaway C7 R's on the grid next year, and DSC seems to be optimistic GM will now allow that to happen
Back when it was announced that GM was blocking entry of the Callaway cars in US series, it was mentioned that it caused some backers of the project to withdraw their support, which delayed the car a bit. Maybe if it's allowed entry those same parties would be interested again?
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Old 28 Sep 2017, 23:28 (Ref:3770409)   #27
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Bummer about the Caddies. I didn't really want to like the ATS-V, but after seeing it in person I couldn't help but be impressed. Hopefully Johnny O can land a ride with another team. (how about in a GT3 Vette.)
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 00:47 (Ref:3770416)   #28
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News about the Cadillacs really sucks. Leaves a really big hole in the paddock.

Hopefully the drivers and crew will be able to get more work soon.
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 16:53 (Ref:3770603)   #29
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What PWC really wants is just to have a committed field of 25 cars in GT for the whole season and then another 5 that drop in once in a while. They want BMW and Lambo because those cars are residing here in the US right now and come with support. Plus they really want GT4 to have 30 full time cars running too. They really want Ford and more Camaros. Then wanting to have 15 TCR cars on the grid and make sure that TC doesn't turn into Spec M235iRacing (which it is). That's what they really want, not to spend their time on a lone C7 that probably won't pan out anyway and short sighted.
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 19:05 (Ref:3770614)   #30
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WELL SAID

With the Caddy news, they must be more accessible or they risk losing the great product they have put together.

I honestly never liked the Caddy programme, it was against the customer style of GT3

I'm fine with Factory support and factory drivers, but if you don't even sell your cars it's completely against the original ethos of GT3


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In fairness, Cadillac was in World Challenge long before they adopted GT3 regulations. I was surprised they built the car at all.
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 20:50 (Ref:3770629)   #31
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In fairness, Cadillac was in World Challenge long before they adopted GT3 regulations. I was surprised they built the car at all.
So was Porsche. Caddy got around the whole thing because you can actually run a GT3 car for about a year to develop it and then start selling it to others. It's that "we are not homologated yet but we want to race". If I run a Porsche, I have to run it as homologated by Porsche. Not just keep changing things because they car is not good enough. Plus if I run a Porsche, it's pretty obvious that if I change something as opposed to every other one out there, the word will get out. As for a Caddy, what do you compare it to? It's not like the competition will figure it out.

As for BoP to fix it, that doesn't happen plus GM knows they can't decimate the competition because they learned that lesson years ago (remember WC when they started or the GT1 Corvettes) as all of the competition goes away.
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 21:15 (Ref:3770632)   #32
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So was Porsche. Caddy got around the whole thing because you can actually run a GT3 car for about a year to develop it and then start selling it to others. It's that "we are not homologated yet but we want to race". If I run a Porsche, I have to run it as homologated by Porsche. Not just keep changing things because they car is not good enough. Plus if I run a Porsche, it's pretty obvious that if I change something as opposed to every other one out there, the word will get out. As for a Caddy, what do you compare it to? It's not like the competition will figure it out.

As for BoP to fix it, that doesn't happen plus GM knows they can't decimate the competition because they learned that lesson years ago (remember WC when they started or the GT1 Corvettes) as all of the competition goes away.
GM provided a lot of support to World Challenge after Audi left and they desperately needed it, is my point. I'm not sure who will take that up but I haven't followed PWC closely in several years. I'm sure Cadillac was allowed to bend some rules, but I'm positive I read that the ATSV.R was homologated.

I remember GT1 well. I remember Viper kicking everyone's teeth in for years. Corvette "domination" is not what led to that class' downfall, but that's a conversation for another thread.
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GM provided a lot of support to World Challenge after Audi left and they desperately needed it, is my point. I'm not sure who will take that up but I haven't followed PWC closely in several years. I'm sure Cadillac was allowed to bend some rules, but I'm positive I read that the ATSV.R was homologated.
It is, via the Ladoux homologation tests.






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That wasn't about next year specifically but rather in general.

The short of it is not only the Corvette the only American brand in GT3, because Callaway actually has its main operations in the US for selling modified GM vehicles through dealers they also have and plan to use the capability to have one of only a couple GT3 cars built in America. That means it could become to North America what the Nismo GT3 is to Japan.
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 23:05 (Ref:3770644)   #35
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Callaway now cleared by GM to sell C7 GT3 into IMSA GTD and PWC - http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...n-the-usa.html
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 23:31 (Ref:3770649)   #36
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I think that is pretty damn good news!






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Well I second that, cracking looking and sounding car

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Wow, that's fantastic to hear! Hope PWC gets one or two!
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Nice to hear that there is a silver lining to the Cadillac news.
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Too bad the C8 is coming out next year. So a tuner C7 is nice but now the real trick is if someone will actually buy one and run it (remember how excited we all were when the Reiter Camaro was allowed to run in PWC). Sort of like a BMW or Lambo. Nobody runs one in PWC, yet they could.
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Too bad the C8 is coming out next year. So a tuner C7 is nice but now the real trick is if someone will actually buy one and run it (remember how excited we all were when the Reiter Camaro was allowed to run in PWC). Sort of like a BMW or Lambo. Nobody runs one in PWC, yet they could.
DIME ran a Lambo at VIR. Wasn't it 3R that bought the Reiter Camaro after they lost the KPAX deal, they were just looking for a customer or something.
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full spec TCR confirmed http://nasportscar.com/pirelli-world...for-new-class/
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DIME ran a Lambo at VIR. Wasn't it 3R that bought the Reiter Camaro after they lost the KPAX deal, they were just looking for a customer or something.
I'm not talking about a one off or something dreamed up in their head, but actual cars that are actually running over a season.
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I wonder if Blackdog Speed Shop might be interested in this:

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/do...r-in-imsa-pwc/

Hopefully we'll see this car in PWC next year!
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I hope that we don't lose CRP Racing to IMSA for next year, although this seems less likely:

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/14515...ototype-switch

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/cr...witch-to-lmp2/

And Magnus Racing also, although this seems more likely:

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/ma...eturn-in-2018/
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Some good news for the GTS class. ST racing and Fast Track Racing (aka.Classic BMW) have apparently purchased GT4 spec M4s. Also Turner motorsport claims that they will be racing in both PWC and ctscc.
http://sportscar365.com/other-series...iveries-begin/
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Some good news for the GTS class. ST racing and Fast Track Racing (aka.Classic BMW) have apparently purchased GT4 spec M4s. Also Turner motorsport claims that they will be racing in both PWC and ctscc.
http://sportscar365.com/other-series...iveries-begin/
Precision Driving also has a BMW GT4
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STR has a render of their BMW M4 GT4 in team colors (Tap the right hand arrow on the picture):
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbCm3x_H...worldchallenge

Also, looks like Nicolai Elghanayan, who drove a Lotus in TC at Laguna, has a KTM XBow GT4. Could be an ex-Mantella car, based on his other Instagram posts. https://www.instagram.com/p/BbAECSJA...by=nicolai0912

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