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View Poll Results: Who will be first to greet the chequer in the SCA 1000?
#2 Tander/Davison 19 11.80%
#3 Noske/Bargwanna 1 0.62%
#4 Gaunt/McIntyre 0 0%
#5 Canto/Youlden 0 0%
#6 Richards/Winterbottom 8 4.97%
#7 Kelly/Kelly 5 3.11%
#8 Richards/McConville 5 3.11%
#9 Davison/Van Gisbergen 3 1.86%
#10 Owen/Price 1 0.62%
#12 Fiore/Bayliss 2 1.24%
#13 Fisher/Sieders 0 0%
#14 Jones/Jones 0 0%
#15 Pretty/Collins 1 0.62%
#16 McNally/Ricciardello 0 0%
#17 Johnson/Courtney 42 26.09%
#18 Luff/Webb 1 0.62%
#21 Lowe/Assaillit 0 0%
#22 Baird/Dumbrell 2 1.24%
#23 Walter/Douglas 0 0%
#24 Priaulx/Reynolds 1 0.62%
#25 Bright/Reindler 5 3.11%
#34 Caruso/Holdsworth 3 1.86%
#33 Ritter/Besnard 1 0.62%
#39 Kelly/Ingall 2 1.24%
#51 Skaife/Murphy 15 9.32%
#55 D'Alberto/Thompson 0 0%
#67 Slade/Morris 1 0.62%
#88 Simonsen/Thompson 1 0.62%
#111 Patrizi/Coulthard 2 1.24%
#247 Wood/Perkins 0 0%
#333 Wall/Tander 1 0.62%
#888 Whincup/Lowndes 39 24.22%
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Old 11 Oct 2009, 09:44 (Ref:2558878)   #601
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I thought it was a great event... there were certainly lots of battles up and down the field.

Jason Richards... must have found another gear with about 7 laps to go... win or bust... and while not winning, certainly blew off some more fancied opposition, and catching the leading HRT car... the sister car was on track for a similar result to last year too... Mr Jones and Mr Jones were very competitive!

Great job for Mr Morris and Mr Slade to get in the 10 too... that thing was also a rocket at times... until some engine dramas slowed progress
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I was wondering if they got a podium if they would have thanked Ford like the winners thanked Holden
Not a chance i would think Johhnyboy. If anyone did would be Clowndes as he still under contract to Ford
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Where have all the Murphy/Skaife bashers gone ??

No posts from any forum members who have anything Ford related as a user name ?

1 CAR IN THE TOP TEN !!
Let's crystal ball Bathurst in 12 months from now, which Ford teams will likely step up to the plate? That's why I'm disappointed that 888 are going red because the cupboard looks bare at BlueOval headquarters.

It won't exactly be great for racing... a Holden is almost guaranteed a win next year if today's results are a likely form guide into next year.
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Interesting that the first 3 cars were WP powered...
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I was doing my own "team management", and was watching Murphy and thinking, lap 137 or 138, well inside the fuel window for the last tank full, bring it in, get out near the front and fight for the win.

As each lap went by I kept thinking if a safety car comes out you are sunk, why aren't you pitting, and then it happened. Was saving a few seconds filling it up worth risking being out of the leading group of three or four with 20 odd laps to go?

I'm very surprised with the wealth of experience in that team that nobody thought a safety car would happen. Anyway that's Bathurst isn't it, what could have been.

Even so I do think that Skaife did a great job under the circumstances and really held up his end of the driving today.

Felt a bit sorry for Bargs being scooped out of the way by a desperate Whincup, and although he copped some flack, I did feel for Frosty and Richo with their car going up in flames. Also to see the DJR cars just fall away was tough after a great lead up.

Hard to fault Tander and Davison though, they drove very well, kept out of trouble, and basically made sure they kept the car in good shape and just drove it as hard as they could all day which ended up being enough to get the job done.
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Jason Richards... must have found another gear with about 7 laps to go... win or bust... and while not winning, certainly blew off some more fancied opposition, and catching the leading HRT car... the sister car was on track for a similar result to last year too... Mr Jones and Mr Jones were very competitive!
McConville put in a great stint in the wet, Richards almost threw it away a few times! Great deserved result for Cam, it would have been nice to see them win.
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I was doing my own "team management", and was watching Murphy and thinking, lap 137 or 138, well inside the fuel window for the last tank full, bring it in, get out near the front and fight for the win.

As each lap went by I kept thinking if a safety car comes out you are sunk, why aren't you pitting, and then it happened. Was saving a few seconds filling it up worth risking being out of the leading group of three or four with 20 odd laps to go?

I'm very surprised with the wealth of experience in that team that nobody thought a safety car would happen. Anyway that's Bathurst isn't it, what could have been.

Even so I do think that Skaife did a great job under the circumstances and really held up hid end of the driving today.
You could tell on the tv that Skaifey was devastated. They probably would have won quite easy if not for the safety car!
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What an eventful weekend, we had great speed in the race and would have loved to be part of the race. We had a battery strap break off the spare battery, which sent it flying around to boot, knocking the fuel component off which caused a fuel leak and set fire to the car.
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must of been a ****weak battery strap!
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Not a bad race, well done Skaifey and Murphy, certainly showed up a lot of the more fancied competitors, such a pity they didnt quite make it onto the podium

Also didnt expect to see only one 'ford' in the top 10!!!!
You didn't see a Ford in the top 10, 1st Ford home was Bright's car in 11th the top 10 were 9 holdens and 1 flying pig
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You could tell on the tv that Skaifey was devastated. They probably would have won quite easy if not for the safety car!
On the grid, Mr Skaife looked quite composed... with Mr Murphy in the car, he took the time to wish some of his contemporaries good fortune in the race... including Mr Ingall

On the grid...

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So did any of the media discuss the badly overheating engine in #888??

Or watched the failure in Mr Coulthard's car?

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It could have been a good day if it wasn't for the tail shaft breaking! It ripped the tunnel open like a coke can!!
Looked like an engine problem to me... with all that smoke...
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I was doing my own "team management", and was watching Murphy and thinking, lap 137 or 138, well inside the fuel window for the last tank full, bring it in, get out near the front and fight for the win.

As each lap went by I kept thinking if a safety car comes out you are sunk, why aren't you pitting, and then it happened. Was saving a few seconds filling it up worth risking being out of the leading group of three or four with 20 odd laps to go?
It's a good point you make. Doesn't matter how many laps from the end you do it, you're only going to need the same 23 seconds of fuel put in it to add to what's already in there.

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On the grid, Mr Skaife looked quite composed... with Mr Murphy in the car
He was probably quite relieved he didn't have to do the start himself. Pretty hard to smoke a clutch from the co-drivers chair.
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I was doing my own "team management", and was watching Murphy and thinking, lap 137 or 138, well inside the fuel window for the last tank full, bring it in, get out near the front and fight for the win.

As each lap went by I kept thinking if a safety car comes out you are sunk, why aren't you pitting, and then it happened. Was saving a few seconds filling it up worth risking being out of the leading group of three or four with 20 odd laps to go?

I'm very surprised with the wealth of experience in that team that nobody thought a safety car would happen. Anyway that's Bathurst isn't it, what could have been.
In hindsight you were right, but the thing is, the #51 and #33 were only screwed by the safety car because they were trapped between pit entry and pit exit when the SC was called. If they'd been anywhere else but on pit straight at the time, an SC would not have been a problem at all (as there are no speed restrictions on the in-lap under yellow and you are free to pit under yellow as well).

The reason they would leave the cars out as long as possible is to maximize the amount of time running on low fuel, as I'm sure you're aware.

They were VERY VERY unlucky.
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shame for #51 and #33 what a fairytale resault if they had finished 1,2 in any order.

just got back from the mountain, great race, had absolutly everything that a typical Bathurst would throw at you. i have to say even taking my Holden hat off it's one of the best Bathursts in recent time IMO.
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Interesting to read the Autosport synopsis of the race (which tens of thousands the world over will no doubt read).

It certainly highlights the fact that Mr Tander was playing hard... I'm not sure too many Bathurst wins have been achieved quite so aggressively. Poor Ricko is probably wondering what he did to Garth to **** him off so much!

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Holden Racing Team's Garth Tander and Will Davison have won the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 as their pace showed the way and their strongest contenders struck trouble.

Tander retook the lead at the second-last safety car, having made contact with the back of the Kelly Racing car at turn two just before the safety car period as he took the position from the Kelly car.


At the restart, Tander then made an extremely aggressive dive on a lapped car at the first turn, riding the kerb on the inside and forcing the lapped car onto the grass on the exit.


This compromised Tander's run up the hill, and as he defended his lead, he forced the Kelly car onto the grass as it tried to take the lead away. Despite a couple of late safety cars, the wounded car of the Kellys with a damaged rear wing from earlier in the race held up the cars behind him allowing the HRT car to make a break.

Don't get me wrong, the #2 deserved to win. But I can't shake the feeling that, if it was Todd rather than Rick in the #7 going up Mountain Straight after the restart, the HRT would now have a VE paperweight on their hands, rather than a Bathurst winner...
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shame for #51 and #33 what a fairytale resault if they had finished 1,2 in any order.

just got back from the mountain, great race, had absolutly everything that a typical Bathurst would throw at you. i have to say even taking my Holden hat off it's one of the best Bathursts in recent time IMO.
Agreed....although hard to beat 2007's finish even though I am a Holden fan.
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i have to say even taking my Holden hat off it's one of the best Bathursts in recent time IMO.
Steady, for a race that had a safety car after the first corner and then on lap 157, bottling everyone up for a run to the flag I am not sure provides one of the best bathursts in recent time.

The huge shifts in weather kept things interesting from one what could have been a mid race lull. Commendable runs by Skaife (extremely surprised) and the BOC lads.
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It's a good point you make. Doesn't matter how many laps from the end you do it, you're only going to need the same 23 seconds of fuel put in it to add to what's already in there.
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While in hindsight yes, they should have come in a lap sooner, the longer they ran, the lighter the load so the quicker they would have been. That would have been the reason for delaying it as long as possible.
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So was Timmy Slade the rookie of the year at 7th? I can remember he ran in Fuji last year but can't think of if he made it to the 1000 prior to now?

If not, would that make Leanne and Wall a combined ROTY Awardees?
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While in hindsight yes, they should have come in a lap sooner, the longer they ran, the lighter the load so the quicker they would have been. That would have been the reason for delaying it as long as possible.
All true, but the risk of losing significant track position vs a few tenths of a second lap time gain for a few more laps seemed to me to be taking a big risk, knowing that those last minute safety cars always seem to happen.

Anyway, you can't undo what's done, but I did feel for Skaife and Murph because although they seem to be amongst the most disliked drivers out there, they both did a great job all day and deserved to at least be on the podium. A win would have been something special for both of them though and I'm sure some fans out there would have enjoyed that as well.
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Interesting to read the Autosport synopsis of the race (which tens of thousands the world over will no doubt read).

It certainly highlights the fact that Mr Tander was playing hard... I'm not sure too many Bathurst wins have been achieved quite so aggressively. Poor Ricko is probably wondering what he did to Garth to **** him off so much!




Don't get me wrong, the #2 deserved to win. But I can't shake the feeling that, if it was Todd rather than Rick in the #7 going up Mountain Straight after the restart, the HRT would now have a VE paperweight on their hands, rather than a Bathurst winner...

I wondered whether anybody would pick up on this and the bad sportsmanship flag applied to #2 (though we didn't see anything of it, just a mention from Crompton). I'm happy for Will & Garth, they kept on keeping on through the dramas of the day, but a few things over the years have encouraged me to form the opinion that Garth's career is likely to end with him being unfolded from a smoking ruin one day, and that would be such a shame.

However, I'm not surprised to see it skimmed over, like various stories, partly as there's not enough time to cover everybody's story on the box, along with being a bit incompatible with the flashy soundbites of the victory ceremony.
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