WEC Porsche Prototype Discussion - Page 341

Richard C · 7 Jun 2018, 18:16 (Ref:3827452)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PascaLM

I'm not sure that ACO and the spectators would appreciate such a come back after Porsche have left the championship.

I agree that chance of that happening is zero for the reason you mention.

Richard

Yuri G. · 28 Jun 2018, 15:42 (Ref:3833468)

They are back https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkh5mAVD...y=onelapheroes

Victor_RO · 29 Jun 2018, 06:02 (Ref:3833537)

https://twitter.com/Porsche_Team/sta...69931219599360

It's happening today.

nobster · 29 Jun 2018, 06:52 (Ref:3833542)

Will they do it, I think they will.. curious about the time they are going to realise

Victor_RO · 29 Jun 2018, 07:10 (Ref:3833545)

First lap of the day - 5:24. Bye bye record.

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Frankel/s...93680430059520

Victor_RO · 29 Jun 2018, 07:59 (Ref:3833556)

https://twitter.com/nuerburgring/sta...04454661738497

5:19.546

chunder · 29 Jun 2018, 08:34 (Ref:3833559)

Funny that this thread is in the ACO regulated section

When that car is no longer ACO regulated

Would have been so much better if they just used a normal 919.

Racer65 · 29 Jun 2018, 08:48 (Ref:3833561)

It is impressive but I really wish the press would stop comparing it to F1 lap times, LMP1's etc etc.

They comply with strict rules, this feat of engineering doesn't so it just devalues both sides by making comparisons like that IMO.

gert · 29 Jun 2018, 10:22 (Ref:3833575)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer65

It is impressive but I really wish the press would stop comparing it to F1 lap times, LMP1's etc etc.

They comply with strict rules, this feat of engineering doesn't so it just devalues both sides by making comparisons like that IMO.

yes and no ...

I agree it is quite useless to compare this against a F1 laptime or a WEC car lap time.
Then again comparing a 2018 F1 laptime against an older F1 laptime is equally useless because of the difference in regulation:
* different engine, turbo/no turbo, (K)ERS/no (K)ERS
* different tire makes, grooves or no grooves even
* different aero regulation
* active suspension
* ...

and yet we/they do that all the time.

The same goes for GT against GT, LMP against LMP, WEC against WEC etc ...

On the other hand, what they have achieved is the outright fastest lap at this track.

It can only be the outright fastest lap ever when you compare it with (and beat) every other formula in every other ruleset that's ever been running around there.

Mal · 29 Jun 2018, 10:30 (Ref:3833576)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer65

It is impressive but I really wish the press would stop comparing it to F1 lap times, LMP1's etc etc.

They comply with strict rules, this feat of engineering doesn't so it just devalues both sides by making comparisons like that IMO.

But like it or loath it, that is the whole reason Porsche are doing it - they would not get the required publicity if the comparisons to F1 were not made.

seanyb505 · 29 Jun 2018, 11:42 (Ref:3833582)

I'm more impressed with this than toyota beating a bunch of privateers.

Victor_RO · 29 Jun 2018, 11:55 (Ref:3833587)

And, ladies and gents, we have an onboard video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug

**bjohnsonsmith** · 29 Jun 2018, 11:59 (Ref:3833588)

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanyb505

I'm more impressed with this than toyota beating a bunch of privateers.

Toyota had to beat the privateers and the track. Remember what happened at Le Mans 2016.

nobster · 29 Jun 2018, 12:23 (Ref:3833589)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

And, ladies and gents, we have an onboard video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug

holy f*ck that looks insane, what a speed!

S griffin · 29 Jun 2018, 12:34 (Ref:3833593)

Can't fail to be impressed with that speed on a windy, narrow stretch of tarmac, with barriers close by. Mega

chunder · 29 Jun 2018, 14:12 (Ref:3833612)

Need to know how the boosting system works on this car, the driver seem to tap into ever differing time spans of boost through the lap, might be for a half second, but then onto the straight is about 4 seconds of full boost.

Is that stored, or harvested or a mixture of the two?

fieldodreams79 · 29 Jun 2018, 14:22 (Ref:3833614)

Watched the full lap this morning at work. Pretty sure gasps were heard all around the office...

I calculated the top speed in MPH down the Döttinger Höhe at around 220?

And man!! Timo's got to have a headache / sore neck after this!

Victor_RO · 29 Jun 2018, 14:51 (Ref:3833616)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunder

Need to know how the boosting system works on this car, the driver seem to tap into ever differing time spans of boost through the lap, might be for a half second, but then onto the straight is about 4 seconds of full boost.

Is that stored, or harvested or a mixture of the two?

My guess is a mix of both, and that the boost at high speed is from a recharge from the MGU-H that's downstream of the turbo.

Juntos · 29 Jun 2018, 16:20 (Ref:3833628)

Why Porsche do not try to beat the land speed record now? It will be good to keep their ego in control.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanyb505

I'm more impressed with this than toyota beating a bunch of privateers.

Definitely Toyota challenge was much bigger. They were not lapping by their own.

**skycafe** · 29 Jun 2018, 17:36 (Ref:3833639)

Did they avoid the lower bowl, the concrete portion, at Karussell because it is too rough?

**skycafe** · 29 Jun 2018, 17:39 (Ref:3833640)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

https://twitter.com/nuerburgring/sta...04454661738497

5:19.546

Egads! I remember reading the commentary of Ickx's 7:14 pole back in 1972 as jaw dropping. I don't think anyone could ever fathom Porsche's time today.

gert · 29 Jun 2018, 17:53 (Ref:3833644)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Watched the full lap this morning at work. Pretty sure gasps were heard all around the office...

I calculated the top speed in MPH down the Döttinger Höhe at around 220?

And man!! Timo's got to have a headache / sore neck after this!

I think the peak was 369 kmh. Not sure if that was at the Döttinger Höhe or not (I am not that familiar with the different names on the track), but I think it is. It's at 04:59 in the video.
369 kmh translates to 229 mph if I'm correct.

**Adam43** · 29 Jun 2018, 18:00 (Ref:3833645)

5:19.546. Wow.

Victor_RO · 29 Jun 2018, 18:02 (Ref:3833646)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

I think the peak was 369 kmh. Not sure if that was at the Döttinger Höhe or not (I am not that familiar with the different names on the track), but I think it is. It's at 04:59 in the video.
369 kmh translates to 229 mph if I'm correct.

It was at 369 half-way down the Döttinger Höhe before it ran out of electric boost and started slowing down from aero drag.

TF110 · 29 Jun 2018, 18:22 (Ref:3833649)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

It was at 369 half-way down the Döttinger Höhe before it ran out of electric boost and started slowing down from aero drag.

And going uphill too. I read on twitter he had to take the high line in the karussel to avoid bottoming out the car and damaging the underbody aero/sideskirts. You can see him avoiding curbs the entire lap as well. As fast as this lap is, there's even more in it because of things like that. Amazing. Regardless of how anyone feels on rules or not, it's still an awesome lap.

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