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Old 4 Feb 2019, 22:57 (Ref:3881974)   #451
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How about Marshall Pruett’s opinion - is that up to your standards?
You state your views as facts yet dont actually share that they are your opinions. No first hand experience, just recounting tales of others' experiences.
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Old 5 Feb 2019, 00:29 (Ref:3881980)   #452
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Surely being fobbed-off when seeking assistance on such an important function of the car would leave somewhat of a bitter taste in the mouths of those at Triple Eight.
Fobbed off or just didn't like the answer? How many other AMG teams had break issues?

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You state your views as facts yet dont actually share that they are your opinions. No first hand experience, just recounting tales of others' experiences.
Doesn't a forum work under the assumption that each post is someone's opinion? Or does every point need to nominate they that are providing an opinion?

If you are in denial about Paul Tracy's reputation around the Indycar paddock - I would strongly advise you to seek out Marshall Pruetts content of the current NBC commentator.
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Old 5 Feb 2019, 01:15 (Ref:3881982)   #453
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Doesn't a forum work under the assumption that each post is someone's opinion? Or does every point need to nominate they that are providing an opinion?

If you are in denial about Paul Tracy's reputation around the Indycar paddock - I would strongly advise you to seek out Marshall Pruetts content of the current NBC commentator.
And again, should I take Mr Pruett's opinion as gospel? Just as you are informing us that we should take your word as fact?
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Old 5 Feb 2019, 03:02 (Ref:3881990)   #454
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And again, should I take Mr Pruett's opinion as gospel? Just as you are informing us that we should take your word as fact?
I would encourage you to listen to Marshall's commentary and background on Paul Tracy prior dismissing it and trying distract the issue with semantics.
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And again, should I take Mr Pruett's opinion as gospel?
Hardly just Marshall Pruett's opinion if you take the time to speak to the people in that world....
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Best Bathurst 12 hours in my memory for sure. The race finally lived up to some of the hype. Fewer safety cars most certainly played a part in it being a better event. I think there were 8 in total. Want that to be less next year. I think the race should be GT3 and Invitational class only. The GT4 cars bring nothing but moving chicanes. Ideal grid is about 35 cars. But even just 30 is ok since the cars are so reliable now.
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Best Bathurst 12 hours in my memory for sure. The race finally lived up to some of the hype. Fewer safety cars most certainly played a part in it being a better event. I think there were 8 in total. Want that to be less next year. I think the race should be GT3 and Invitational class only. The GT4 cars bring nothing but moving chicanes. Ideal grid is about 35 cars. But even just 30 is ok since the cars are so reliable now.
I wouldn’t play with the classes, keep it as is. Majority of SC are from GT3 cars making errors rather than class cars.

Spa24 is GT3 only and it’s packed full of SC
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I wouldn’t play with the classes, keep it as is. Majority of SC are from GT3 cars making errors rather than class cars.

Spa24 is GT3 only and it’s packed full of SC
Yes but there was still a couple of GT3 collisions with lower class cars. So if that can reduce the number of safety car periods from 8 to 4/5. Then its worth it. I just don't think the M4s and KTX's brought up much to the race.
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I'd go the opposite way. I'd introduce more GT4 cars. The M4s and KTXs didn't bring much because there wasn't enough GT4 cars to make a proper race of it.

Part of the skill of endurance racing is dealing with multi-class traffic.
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I'd go the opposite way. I'd introduce more GT4 cars. The M4s and KTXs didn't bring much because there wasn't enough GT4 cars to make a proper race of it.

Part of the skill of endurance racing is dealing with multi-class traffic.
At track like Bathurst I think there is a conflict with multi class racing traffic vs risk for more safety cars. I don't think you can have both there. Which one is more important? My vote is fewer safety cars myself. I hope other will weigh in with their opinion
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I have to agree on the fact that fewer safety cars really helped make this year's race better. Honestly wasn't bothered by lower car counts this time around.
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Meanwhile the Nurburgring 24hr runs everything from small hatchbacks right up to GT3.
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Yes but there was still a couple of GT3 collisions with lower class cars. So if that can reduce the number of safety car periods from 8 to 4/5. Then its worth it. I just don't think the M4s and KTX's brought up much to the race.
I think the Spa24 is evidence enough that just by taking away class cars - you don't automatically eradicate safety cars.

GT4 is important for the future of the event and I feel adds far more than it allegedly takes away.
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Meanwhile the Nurburgring 24hr runs everything from small hatchbacks right up to GT3.


The difference being you have to earn your Ring permit to race in the 24hr by doing several VLN races and staying out of trouble. Doesn’t matter who you are-there are no exceptions and you can’t just jump into a GT3 car for those races towards the permit either which helps the driver give an understanding of what’ll happen when they get lapped by the front running pack and how to react properly. If you’ve ever seen an onboard from a slower car when that happens it can be pretty crazy.

In fairness to the B12 you can’t do the same thing given there’s only three events a year on the track.
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