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Old 8 Feb 2019, 00:27 (Ref:3882551)   #166
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No, that isn't for me either. I tolerate GT cars at Le Mans as I have no choice.
So you would rather see 2 Toyota’s, 6 privateer P1s, 48 Orecas, and 4 other P2s?
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 01:47 (Ref:3882552)   #167
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I think Ayse is just saying what he’d prefer.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 02:21 (Ref:3882555)   #168
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Problem is this isn't the Group C days where there were enough cars that GT cars weren't needed
GTE is only in the race for manufacturers. It isn't cost effective as borne out by how few privateers there are racing where they don't automatically get into Le Mans by doing so. Right now it's mostly that forced 50/50 ratio that drives teams from LMP2 where there's a colossal bottleneck to GTE Am. GTE Pro had an impressive car count last year but that's something of an illusion thanks to Ford and Porsche entering 4 cars. You could lose half of those 17 practically overnight.

If you allowed LMP3 in the big show and went back to the fastest x cars you would fill up the field with prototypes instantly.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 06:04 (Ref:3882564)   #169
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Grid consisting solely of P1, P2 and P3 would be fine with me. P3 field would have to be capped to max. 10 cars though and you could only enter it by winning the regional series or if ACO reserved 1 slot for each chassis manufacturer and your entry was allocated int this criteria.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 06:07 (Ref:3882565)   #170
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I'd rather some GT's than p3's. No need for ANOTHER class that all sound the exact same. Then we'll get commentators who can't tell the difference and think one of them is an lmp1 crashing or something.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 06:08 (Ref:3882566)   #171
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I'd rather some GT's than p3's. No need for ANOTHER class that all sound the exact same. Then we'll get commentators who can't tell the difference and think one of them is an lmp1 crashing or something.
Well yeah I forgot to say that P2 would have to be morphed back into (at least somewhat) less spec formula.

Or you have
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So technically there would still be that GT aesthetic present...
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 08:18 (Ref:3882584)   #172
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This would make an excellent stand-alone "design your own series" thread. I'm enjoying reading this.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 13:24 (Ref:3882631)   #173
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Well yeah I forgot to say that P2 would have to be morphed back into (at least somewhat) less spec formula.

Or you have
LMGTP
LMP1(NH)
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So technically there would still be that GT aesthetic present...
I think the Le Mans 24 was prototype only through the 80's and up to 1992. GT only came back in 1993 after the 1992 race had just 25 cars.
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I think the Le Mans 24 was prototype only through the 80's and up to 1992. GT only came back in 1993 after the 1992 race had just 25 cars.
Yes it was Stephane Ratel who essentially "saved" it during 1992-1993 offseason and onwards, after the FIA had screwed up C1 regulations bit earlier

However that was then, and this is now
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Yes it was Stephane Ratel who essentially "saved" it during 1992-1993 offseason and onwards, after the FIA had screwed up C1 regulations bit earlier

However that was then, and this is now
I am someone who admits is a GT fan first and foremost. I find the hypercar or car/car whatever the name is very appealing. Go ahead and make the rest of the grid prototype based. Got no issue with that. Especially since GT racing is good hands with SRO and IMSA around. The latter which could be the exclusive home to the BMW M8 and Ford GT by later this year.

GTE does appear to have a future though at Le Mans considering the Corvette C8 and the Brabham coming with new cars. Predict that Porsche is going to stick around with the 911 RSR too. Maybe a new generation of that to come. Aston and Ferrari could be moving to the hypercars.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 17:15 (Ref:3882673)   #176
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I am someone who admits is a GT fan first and foremost. I find the hypercar or car/car whatever the name is very appealing. Go ahead and make the rest of the grid prototype based. Got no issue with that. Especially since GT racing is good hands with SRO and IMSA around. The latter which could be the exclusive home to the BMW M8 and Ford GT by later this year.

GTE does appear to have a future though at Le Mans considering the Corvette C8 and the Brabham coming with new cars. Predict that Porsche is going to stick around with the 911 RSR too. Maybe a new generation of that to come. Aston and Ferrari could be moving to the hypercars.
I think I might reconsider what i said earlier today now after hearing the marshal/graham podcast.
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 17:31 (Ref:3882675)   #177
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I think Ayse is just saying what he’d prefer.
I am indeed. And frankly, the answer to Dyson Mazda's question is Yes.

Personal preference.

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I'd rather some GT's than p3's. No need for ANOTHER class that all sound the exact same. Then we'll get commentators who can't tell the difference and think one of them is an lmp1 crashing or something.
Again, personally, I think the P3's are excellent entertainment and I'd happily have a bunch of those to make up a full prototype field.

Personal preference again.
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I think I might reconsider what i said earlier today now after hearing the marshal/graham podcast.
What did they say

Hopefully not the mother chassis thing again
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They've done pretty well with the Dallara in recent times, but it seems that you can't stop the Oreca steamroller (still the best overall package in LMP2 and they also have strength in numbers and it also seems customer support), and IMO Dallara did concentrate more on the Cadillac DPI end of things vs the stock LMP2 variant.
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