W Series for Women - Page 7

cds_uk · 28 Jan 2019, 18:28 (Ref:3880259)

Well, the list has been whittled down to 28 now, some familiar names have made it through and one or two have fallen at the first hurdle, anyone care to name a potential front runner yet?

Umai Naa · 28 Jan 2019, 19:23 (Ref:3880274)

A few surprises in there.

And a few surprises not there.

**bella** · 28 Jan 2019, 23:35 (Ref:3880310)

honestly, congratulations to the ladies taking the opportunity and running with it and especially glad to see all the brits making it through. no surprise really - they all know what they’re doing. but i struggled to read the press release talking about there being “smiles and tears” when they announced who was going through. cringe. and the ceo describing the women as “tough, brave and strong” as if it was a sanitary product advert or something. cmon ms bond muir. this is your concept. do better.

Umai Naa · 29 Jan 2019, 00:05 (Ref:3880314)

There's some chat that a couple of contestants either didn't show up, or left the competition early.

Odd, when for some it would have been perhaps the only opportunity to have a shot at some sort of international seat.

**GTRMagic** · 29 Jan 2019, 04:51 (Ref:3880349)

Australian Contestants Confused by Selection Process

Sounds like there might be a few issues....

Umai Naa · 29 Jan 2019, 05:27 (Ref:3880353)

Sometimes in these sorts of scenarios, those with the final say, are more concerned about the driver's ability to listen, rather than their ability to operate the vehicle.

/Devil's advocate

**BertMk2** · 29 Jan 2019, 08:49 (Ref:3880376)

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Australian Contestants Confused by Selection Process

Sounds like there might be a few issues....

Sounds a bit like "driver that's not selected says selection criteria wrong" - little bit of sour grapes?

Umai Naa · 29 Jan 2019, 10:12 (Ref:3880388)

Driving was only part of the program.

There were other facets, such as fitness, media and sponsor presentations, theory and so on.

For someone like Ms Angelo for instance, whose physical fitness and driving ability is well-regarded back in Australia, she's obviously fallen flat on one or more aspects that don't directly relate to actually driving the car. With all due respect to Chelsea, she's always had trouble finding sponsorship, and has had to rely on key figures in the Australian motorsport landscape to keep her going.

Being able to sell yourself to potential sponsors, even though they're fully-funded drives (for now), would be a pretty important dot point in the selection criteria.

**bella** · 29 Jan 2019, 11:08 (Ref:3880395)

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Sounds a bit like "driver that's not selected says selection criteria wrong" - little bit of sour grapes?

yeah exactly. i applaud people for continuing a cynical dialogue alongside the happy clappy patronising nonsense that’s coming out of the official channels.

she doesn’t sound very bright though. “driving in snow won’t prepare you for f3” really, i would have thought that’s exactly what it does.

but they’re probably right about vague selection procedure. the attitude test for starters is quite hard to quantify.

NaBUru38 · 29 Jan 2019, 12:21 (Ref:3880412)

Is talent a must to reach F1? Unfortunately, not really. So it's understandable they are considering other more relevant factors.

**bella** · 29 Jan 2019, 12:26 (Ref:3880414)

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Is talent a must to reach F1? Unfortunately, not really. So it's understandable they are considering other more relevant factors.

none of which are musts to reach f1 either, unless they’re asking for family trees and trust funds

the hardest bit here is, as a woman, supporting other women moving through the selection process, but also articulating disagreement with the concept itself.

NaBUru38 · 29 Jan 2019, 12:31 (Ref:3880418)

Many women have criticised the project, most notably Pippa Mann.

It would be easier if 3-driver teams in FIA F3 were required to have a least one woman.

midgetman · 29 Jan 2019, 12:33 (Ref:3880419)

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Is talent a must to reach F1? Unfortunately, not really.

Of course it is. Even the lamest, back of the grid F1 driver can drive the socks off all of us here. You've got to have some kind of talent to even keep an F1 car on the road.

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gregc · 30 Jan 2019, 10:22 (Ref:3880642)

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Many women have criticised the project, most notably Pippa Mann.

It would be easier if 3-driver teams in FIA F3 were required to have a least one woman.

My biggest problem with this whole concept (apart from the segregated racing itself, which is just plain wrong to me - but Pippa Mann, Sophia Floersch and others have articulated that far better than I can) is that if you want to increase female representation in motorsport then going in at F3 level is far, far too late.

Spend the money supporting female drivers in karting and junior series, or put it into a female driver development programme - I'd be right there supporting either of those. By the time you get to F3, most of the female drivers have already fallen away from the sport. Of course, it's harder to make a PR stunt out of things like that....

I'm not going to criticise the drivers who are taking the opportunity (I think Jamie Chadwick has the best attitude - it's another series she can add to her 2019 calendar, and it's free, so she might as well go for it), but I genuinely hope the series itself fails - otherwise I worry that segregated racing starts being seen as normal*.

*it pains me saying that, normally I would wish any new series the best of luck on the basis that more racing is always good. But not this one.

andrewc · 11 Feb 2019, 13:07 (Ref:3883252)

Meanwhile Jamie Chadwick shows its not necessary by winning the MRF single seater series with a total of 6 wins out of 15 races