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Old 5 Oct 2020, 15:45 (Ref:4008705)   #26
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So - Croft is the topic of the thread?

First appearing on the BTCC (then BSCC) calendar in 1968, Class winners that day were:
A-Gordon Spice, B-John Fitzpatrick, C-Frank Gardner, D-Roy Pierpoint.

Croft’s history saw a period of time when there was no tarmac surface, and Rallycross was the main category raced at the venue. 1997 saw a major revamp though, and BTCC returned that year with Alain Menu dominating proceedings. Matt Neal also took an Independent win that day and will be hoping for similar success this weekend.
There is a widely held view that the circuit favours RWD cars. This in part due to the Hairpin and tight changes of direction. The first time that constructor NGTC cars raced there though, Honda took a 1st and 3rd, sandwiching the BMW of Collard. The other two races that day also went to FWD machinery.

2013 saw Turkington take two wins and a second, seeming to underline the view that the circuit favours RWD. A feat he almost matched in 2014. 2015 saw a BMW 1-2-3 in the first race, and RWD cars take all three wins. RWD success continued through the rest of the NGTC era, with FWD cars only seemingly getting results in the 3rd race reverse grid. This was the case when the series visited most recently in 2019, with Jordan taking two wins in his BMW, before the Focus of Chilton managed a R3 win.


At just over 2.1 miles in length, Croft is one of the longer circuits on the BTCC calendar, with a technical nature and tight corners, particularly the final hairpin that sees cars sometimes 3 or 4 abreast coming onto the start/finish straight. Following the recent resurfacing, Jordan set a new Qualifying lap record in 2019 of 1m21.734s, with Turkington setting a race lap record of 1m22.063s at the same meeting.



Croft is usually the host of a BTCC even in June, so this season will be somewhat different with the event in October. Will the lower temperature bring the circuit back towards the FWD cars?
Saturday is forecast to be 14deg with a 60% chance of rain.

Sunday 11deg and Cloudy.
Great intro crm, reminiscent of the ones that Born Racer does in the Formula One section. Thank you
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 16:12 (Ref:4008709)   #27
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Great intro crm, reminiscent of the ones that Born Racer does in the Formula One section. Thank you
Nowhere near up to BR's standards I think, but I felt it was worthwhile to keep the thread on track a little.
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 17:36 (Ref:4008717)   #28
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Evantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEvantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEvantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Onslow-Cole in Belgium so another driver will be in at HARD. Tagged #FullCircle so assume it's a returning name.

Cue all the comments suggesting Jade Edwards....
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 17:36 (Ref:4008718)   #29
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 17:38 (Ref:4008719)   #30
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Wouldn't mind it being Howard Fuller to be honest, seeing as he would've had the drive in the first place!
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 17:49 (Ref:4008720)   #31
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Onslow-Cole in Belgium so another driver will be in at HARD. Tagged #FullCircle so assume it's a returning name.
Must be Warren Scott then
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 17:57 (Ref:4008727)   #32
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porsche962fan should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Mark Howard ?

and who will be Neate's victim this time ?
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 18:38 (Ref:4008735)   #33
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Mark Howard ?
Never raced for HARD.

May just be Ollie Brown back of course. Regardless, even if it would've been another big name like Onslow-Cole, the car's so far off the pace it wouldn't make any difference.
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How about Mike Bushell? That would be fun. Shame we won’t TOC have one more runout though due to circumstances
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Onslow-Cole in Belgium so another driver will be in at HARD. Tagged #FullCircle so assume it's a returning name.

Cue all the comments suggesting Jade Edwards....
Hmmm... Full Circle. A 1980 Doctor Who Episode. It'll be K-9, the robotic doggie in the car. Remove these fallible humans from the equation I say!
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Old 6 Oct 2020, 09:52 (Ref:4008809)   #36
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Must be Warren Scott then
or Tony Gilham himself ?


BTW when it comes to a certain driver on the grid this song comes to mind

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Old 6 Oct 2020, 10:04 (Ref:4008810)   #37
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Wonder what other changes to the grid we'll see?
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Bushell in for TO-C

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Well that's anticlimactic..! Again, they could've put Turkington in that car and still wouldn't make it into the points, so the driver's kind of irrelevant sadly
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Old 6 Oct 2020, 13:04 (Ref:4008833)   #40
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I guessed right then. At least they will have Bushell's experience to help them
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Yes, he was scheduled to be:

As an accomplished motorsport engineer, having previously run Tordoff’s Honda Civic, Bushell will be engineering the Astra for the remainder of the 2020 season, also doubling up as driver coach, as PMR look to field a number of highly accomplished British drivers throughout the year


Although it's no surprise plans are changing all the time this season.
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That was the idea with PMR. A couple of outings as a driver and then engineer it for the rest of the season. He used to engineer himself at Team HARD and he engineered Butcher last year.
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He's a good engineer, that's for sure. If he can't get budget together for next year then I would reckon someone will snap him up for his engineering prowess. Mr Hollamby perhaps? No Butcher or Bushell and they've gone from winners to also rans - coincidence?
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I'm surprised Jake hasn't pulled more out of the Honda to be fair, I really expected him to be right up there after last year and his earlier performances for HARD
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Update from Motorbase on FB. Butcher's car has returned from Custom Cages and back at MB ready for paint an reassembly. There's about a week's worth of work to do in the space of a few days. No time for a shakedown, the car should run for the first time in FP1.
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Yes, he was scheduled to be:

As an accomplished motorsport engineer, having previously run Tordoff’s Honda Civic, Bushell will be engineering the Astra for the remainder of the 2020 season, also doubling up as driver coach, as PMR look to field a number of highly accomplished British drivers throughout the year


Although it's no surprise plans are changing all the time this season.
Don’t think so. I remember Louise Goodman interviewing him about engineering Butcher.
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Don’t think so. I remember Louise Goodman interviewing him about engineering Butcher.
https://www.btcc.net/2020/08/19/pmr-back-on-track-in-the-btcc/

I think they were getting confused and referring to him driving Tordoff's car.

The important point though is surely not which car he engineered in the past, but that PMR are now down an engineer and driving coach? Does that make Constable's weekend harder?

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