Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition

[CTD]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

I pity the fool who thinks an engineering firm with the capabilities of P&M cannot build a LMP1 car. Pure foolishness.

Originally Posted by gwyllion

The same could be said about Prodrive, but the AMR-One prototype turned out to be a complete disaster

True, but Prodrive had showed some bad turn out up until the AMR-One. (Like the WRC program with Subaru, failed F1 bid, and the AMR/Lola dispute)
P&M seems to be more successful in their programs

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by CTD

True, but Prodrive had showed some bad turn out up until the AMR-One. (Like the WRC program with Subaru, failed F1 bid, and the AMR/Lola)
P&M seems to be more successful in their programs

Yes, in a way I think that every single move Aston Martin has done since the last lap of Le Mans 2008 has just been further down the hill (including the vantage program). But in all seriousness the Lola-AM effort was no slouch... yes massively underfunded plus after 2009 underdeveloped as well, and unfortunately doomed to stay out of major contention as the fuel type was not favoured by ACO like the other one, but the car did relatively well with the ingredients it was given.

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Chiana

Yes, in a way I think that every single move Aston Martin has done since the last lap of Le Mans 2008 has just been further down the hill (including the vantage program). But in all seriousness the Lola-AM effort was no slouch... yes massively underfunded plus after 2009 underdeveloped as well, and unfortunately doomed to stay out of major contention as the fuel type was not favoured by ACO like the other one, but the car did relatively well with the ingredients it was given.

I meant the AMR/Lola, as the dispute between Lola and Prodrive . I don't feel Prodrive acted very professional and to me a good example of the Prodrive fall.

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Originally Posted by CTD

I meant the AMR/Lola, as the dispute between Lola and Prodrive . I don't feel Prodrive acted very professional and to me a good example of the Prodrive fall.

Well, in any case, my statement about the 'downfall' of AMR still holds

[Pandamasque]

Originally Posted by The Badger

Plus P&M will raise the game in P1 , as they do with respect to pit stops and tactics .

Like running into each other during pit-stops, or while exiting pit lane, or starting off the pit stall in reverse? ))

[The Badger]

How often does that happen , you know their better than that .

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

I pity the fool who thinks an engineering firm with the capabilities of P&M cannot build a LMP1 car. Pure foolishness.

There are more specialist carbon tub companies than P&M , most of the big companies farm out their chassis tub builds .

I would expect P&M to run them though .

[alexkiller8]

pratt&miller is an engineering studio, but speaking about race cars is a just something more than a tuner! if they were able to build a prototype chassis/tub i don't understand why corvette (GM) didn't hire them to build a chassis for the new corvette DP instead to use other already existent chassis for their DP3. Surely they can be good to run the team as oreca does with toyota lmp1 project, even if i think that they will need new drivers, that already have experience with a lmp1 car.

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by alexkiller8

i don't understand why corvette (GM) didn't hire them to build a chassis for the new corvette DP instead to use other already existent chassis for their DP3.

Probably a cheaper method of entering Grand-Am and being competitive off the mark .

[alexkiller8]

or probably because they (P&M) can't build a thing that have never done...

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I suspect most of the fans don't even know there's an external chassis underneath the bodywork... it's even called Corvette DP which to casual ear sounds like a 100% official GM product. A bit like Lotus rebranding but Corvette actually did more than just signed the bribes, unlike that other joke of a manufacturer... so there's enough reason for ya!

Grand-Am also loves pegging cars back and forth, so little reason to develop a beast of a car if the adjustments immediately bring the car back to the level of others. Which actually already happened in the pre-season testing!

P&M didn't have that much to do with the bodywork itself, btw...

[alexkiller8]

Originally Posted by Chiana

I suspect most of the fans don't even know there's an external chassis underneath the bodywork... it's even called Corvette DP which to casual ear sounds like a 100% official GM product

also because during presentation and press release about corvette DP, was never clearly revealed this "little" detail.... i found out this only during daytona race when in the HUD of spirit of daytona car appear the writing "coyote corvette DP"... then was easy do 2+2

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by alexkiller8

or probably because they (P&M) can't build a thing that have never done...

P&M actually do build the Coyote DP-chassis. Used to be Cheever, but P&M was first brought in as a consultant and later took over completely.

[Mal]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

I pity the fool who thinks an engineering firm with the capabilities of P&M cannot build a LMP1 car. Pure foolishness.

It doesn't take much to hire some staff with plenty of experience - there are lots of the ex Pug design team and management available.

[Deleted]

Not really a rumour or anything, but since we don't have general 'news' or Trans-Am thread...

Gateway Racing Delivers New Trans Am Corvette


Looks pretty neat, don't you think?

The series grid numbers have been pretty low since the 'comeback', to say the least, but I believe there's a limited TV deal of some kind for this year. The first race at Mosport kicks off in few weeks.

[Coopz21 x]

That looks nice i like it.

[Simmi]

Murphy is still spreading doom and gloom rumours about Lola.

@Murphythebear
Today Murphy hears that Lola's been sold, and that "mass" layoffs will occur before the sale closes.

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Murphy is still spreading doom and gloom rumours about Lola.

Honestly, i've lost a lot of faith in Murphys rumors. They are luckily ofte. Very weak.

[The Badger]

Somehow I cant see that happening , when their core business is defense . And Im pretty sure there woulda been something in the rumour mill by now .

Lets see if Murphy is correct this time , for the laugh anyway . Maybe that bear should be retired to pasture .

[Deleted]

I think he's pretty much retired from actual blogging side of things already, if the last paragraph of his latest entry is anything to go by.

[Fogelhund]

Certainly was wrong about Risi not running, and Vipers coming to the ALMS, and Signature not coming, wrong about the troubles Tucker is in hmmm..

As far as the Lola issues, there is some substance behind it...

[Deleted]

Viper's return was widely rumoured/reported elsewhere and same goes for Tucker's wacky adventures...

He's pretty decent in my books though.

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

As far as the Lola issues, there is some substance behind it...

Care to expand on that please ?

[Japanese Samurai]

AIM power will launch a new project in May 2012. What?
http://www.facebook.com/aim.power

[gustavobamba]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

AIM power will launch a new project in May 2012. What?
http://www.facebook.com/aim.power

New engine for 2014 rules?????