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Old 3 May 2012, 14:23 (Ref:3068835)   #276
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the french (with a few occasional exceptions) seem happy to tread the formula renault f4-2.0-3.5 path without the need for f3 in between which is a shame, but so be it. there's quite a few heading to f3 open though which i think if you place in in the 2.0 - 3.5 ladder fits very nicely - no silly budgets, you still get to play with an f3 car even if it's still subject to some fairly rigid regulations and then you go into big cars with some decent experience, and mostly on big-car relevant circuits too.
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Old 3 May 2012, 14:26 (Ref:3068841)   #277
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Seems a bit of an own goal moving away from Paul Ricard a couple of day before it is confirmed as being an F1 track again.

How is rich driver's Daddy going to feel when his son is not British F3 champ and he blames it on 10% of the races using a different tyre to the regulatons?
Uh, if they're rich then obviously they'll just pay for some more testing. Because that's what the rich do, right? **** away their money so little Johnny can win his championship that he doesn't deserve.
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Old 3 May 2012, 15:12 (Ref:3068868)   #278
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Autosport Mag's saying that by combining the BF3 and Euro Championship fields, there's a grid of 25 signed up for Pau ! That's excellent news and as some of us have been saying, maybe the future is in unification of some or all of these series.
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Old 3 May 2012, 23:48 (Ref:3069049)   #279
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Here's the official preview from the British F3 website. It should be an excellent meeting, but I anticipate some damage. There was back in 2005, when I was there, and there has been during the WTCC visits.
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Old 2 Jul 2012, 19:40 (Ref:3101025)   #280
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100822

Some news about FIA plans for F3
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Old 2 Jul 2012, 20:51 (Ref:3101057)   #281
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I wonder what he means about 'making the price right for drivers' within the context of new regulations... because cost is by far and away the biggest issue in current FIA regs.
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Old 28 Jul 2012, 08:40 (Ref:3112471)   #282
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Finally, they're proposing to merge BF3 and EF3 - see here. Why didn't they do this before the start of 2012 and maybe we could have had one half decent series as opposed to two weak ones. Morons !
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Old 28 Jul 2012, 08:49 (Ref:3112477)   #283
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Note SROs proposal is for the FIA European title which is not the same thing as the Euroseries, which is expected to continue with DTM and the old engines from MB and VW.
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Old 28 Jul 2012, 08:59 (Ref:3112479)   #284
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Note SROs proposal is for the FIA European title which is not the same thing as the Euroseries, which is expected to continue with DTM and the old engines from MB and VW.
Yes, but if it does happen, I can't see how the Euro series could continue in anything other than a shadow of what it is now... and that's not all that great. Maybe it will revert to being the German F3 championship and follow the DTM ?
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Old 28 Jul 2012, 16:55 (Ref:3112719)   #285
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They should do three races in the UK (Silverstone, Brands Hatch and Donington), three in Germany (Nürburgring, Hockenheim and Norisring), and then one or two in Benelux (Spa, Zandvoort), France (Paul Ricard, Le Mans, Magny Cours, Pau), Italy (Monza, Mugello, Imola) and Central Europe (Brno, Slovakia, Zeltweg).

That way, both SRO and ITM get a few local races, and long travels are reduced.
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Old 28 Jul 2012, 22:51 (Ref:3112953)   #286
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They should do three races in the UK (Silverstone, Brands Hatch and Donington), three in Germany (Nürburgring, Hockenheim and Norisring), and then one or two in Benelux (Spa, Zandvoort), France (Paul Ricard, Le Mans, Magny Cours, Pau), Italy (Monza, Mugello, Imola) and Central Europe (Brno, Slovakia, Zeltweg).

That way, both SRO and ITM get a few local races, and long travels are reduced.
A series like this does not need that many visits to 'Central Europe' or any of the countries.
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Old 29 Jul 2012, 02:42 (Ref:3112999)   #287
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Then just Zeltweg.
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Oh, you mean that UK and Germany shouldn't have three races each? I think yes they need them. It's a way to attract media and sponsors from the largest markets. also, since most teams are from those countries, they will like to have a few short trips.
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Old 29 Jul 2012, 08:28 (Ref:3113079)   #289
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A couple of rounds at each of the main countries top grade circuits would suffice.
It doesn't need to be a 57 round championship!
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A couple of rounds at each of the main countries top grade circuits would suffice.
It doesn't need to be a 57 round championship!
Ya but that would be just common sense which is something that is in very short supply among the stakeholders of these series.
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Old 29 Jul 2012, 17:31 (Ref:3113362)   #291
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So SRO is trying to find a reason to race in Europe, that's all what it's about. Anyway, which are the six tuners confirmed for 2013? Neil Brown is one, I assume Three Bond the other, who else?
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Old 29 Jul 2012, 20:58 (Ref:3113424)   #292
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Finally, they're proposing to merge BF3 and EF3 - see here. Why didn't they do this before the start of 2012 and maybe we could have had one half decent series as opposed to two weak ones. Morons !
That's not what the article says.
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Note SROs proposal is for the FIA European title which is not the same thing as the Euroseries, which is expected to continue with DTM and the old engines from MB and VW.
Now that's how I read it. MB and VW have totally dragged their heels in adopting the new engine regulations. Ratel is trying to exploit this with his proposal, which would make a single F3 Championship to FIA regulations.
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Christ, don't let the FIA near it or they'll only race in Bahrain!
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It would cure the drought problem though!
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Old 30 Jul 2012, 07:21 (Ref:3113566)   #295
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SRO are only doing what the drivers want and therefore the teams want as well.
F3 is a professional series and therefore the teams are businesses, if your customers want to race on high class circuits with live TV thats what you must do.
For the amateur drivers the MSVF3 cup is available.
Well done SRO for getting on with the job and publishing a calendar so that teams and drivers can plan for a strong future for F3.
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Whilst, not overjoyed about having to visit the 3 MSV circuits, I feel that the proposed schedule is the best possible in the circumstances, let us hope that SRO allow the calendar to develop over the next few seasons, with some stability of venue and date.

Events become stronger if they take place on a similar date every year. It was obvious at Spa over the weekend that many of the spectators were there because it was an 'event' with a great atmosphere, irrespective of what was happening on the track. The race was well promoted and there was a varied range of activities off track to make the event worth visiting for people even if they aren't hard core racing enthusiasts.

Announcing the schedule early helps teams with their planning and allows them to offer attractive packages to their drivers and sponsors.
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SRO? Sorry for the newbie question.
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The Stephane Ratel Organization - see here.
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If the European and British F3 series join together. The suggestion seems too be that 2/3 or 3/4 or more of the meetings would be in Europe.
Great news for the European teams who should be well pleased with that deal. British teams paying for all that extra cross channel transportation should do wonders for teams costs and budgets. Would they not be forced in to fully retrieving all that extra European VAT if the bulk of their season was outside the UK?
Surely there are enough money woes in British F3 and teams struggling to find drivers with budgets. Or may be drivers will be falling over themselves t grab a 800k drive in 2013 to be with a British team racing mainly European circuits
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It does NOT cost £800,000 to drive in British F3
Standard budget £550,000 for full season. Yes if you want extras like winter testing ,no insurance excess, simulator programes etc then the budget will be slightly higher. National Class is approx 40% less so please stop giving false information.
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